Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:32:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: M-G: The moderators position: Above the people. (Part II) (fwd)




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Subject: The moderators position: Above the people. (Part II)

PART TWO OF THE ANALYSIS OF THE DIFFERENT POSSITIONS ARISING WITHIN THE M-I LIST
(This is a follow on the "position" of the anti-communist hack Blarney
Rosser, the libelous Goebbelian tool of US imperialism of which we already
said enough, only noting now, that after "emptiying his bowels" of his
counter-revolutionary and "potentially expensive" libelous vile, he has
returned with his jackal's tail between his legs to skulk in his usual corner).

THE MODERATORS POSITION:

"Full freedom" means the complete abolition of a state administration that
is not wholly and exclusively responsible to the people, that is not
elected by, accountable to, and subject to recall by, the people. "Full
freedom" means that is not the people who should be subordinated to
officials, but the officials who should be subordinated to the people".

V.I. Lenin, "The Proletariat and the Peasantry" - Novaya Zhizn
11, November 12, 1905 - Collected Works Vol 10. pp. 40-43 

So what is the moderators position, if any?  These people - while
proclaiming themselves to be Marxists, some of them Leninists, even  -
clearly admit they have no other principled position than to pass the
bureacratic bucket, while restating in several modalities and tones the
"principle" that "the people should be subordinated to the officials".

Who wanted this action?  Apparently only Zeynep Tufekcioglu, and since
Godena in shining armour has come out to vouch for the lady and share her
guilt, him too, while Jonathan, simply remains in the backgroud mumbling
obscurities. But no one should blame her or point out her unprincipled
behaviour because she gets "upset by death talk".

But what kind of "death talk" is that upsets this "revolutionary Marxist
lady"?. Certainly only one kind of death talk - anti-imperialist
anti-reactionary death talk.  

As to pro-imperialist, reactionary death talk - millions of murders by
Stalin, Chairman Mao, the PCP, and whosoever ever dares to touch a hair of
the reactionaries and the imperialists, such "death talk" really never
upsets her!  On the contrary, it "gladdens her" - she sees it as "necessary
criticism", and she occassionally indulges in this "death talk" herself
without upsetting her tummy even a little tiny bit.

She winces in pain at the mention of the word icepick - but her lips curl
turgidly while the imperialist catchword "gulag" rolls easily and matter of
factly from her own tongue.     

(to be continued tomorrow)





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