Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 05:17:09 -0500 Subject: M-G: Two Questions! Dear List.. Louis G is confusing M-i with two questions. On the one hand he has become the white knight in shining armour who is defending Aldolfo and the "Lenin" list by cross posting Aldofo's Stalinist Garbage on the women's question and (Affirmative Action) at the same time Aldolfo is in PRACTICE using his own demented program of anti-democratic and affirmative action program on the "Lenin" list in order to avoid confronting his political opponents by banning certain people and political trends from taking part in the discussions. On the other hand Godena is trying to translate his own false position on the question of affirmative action into a cover for Aldolfo's unprincipled and opportunist Stalinist line on this question. I agree with both Jon and Zeynep that Aldolfo can come here and defend his macho Stalinist opinions on this question any time he wants to instead of barricading himself and his lapdog photographer DetCom along with Mark Jones in a private little corner of cyberspace screaming that everybody is counter-revolutionary that do not support the bankrupt politics of the PCP and every speech that god Gonzalo ever made in his life as a condition for being on the Lenin list.. He does not need a spokesman on this list Godena. Why don't you admit that you are doing a anxiety flim-flam number as moderater and Stalinist. The flim flam started when you began apoligizing for the despicable activities that Aldolfo was dumped for a short period of time from M-I for. And now you go from apoligizing for Aldolfo to becoming his fucking lawyer as he marched out of here slandering everybody and building the new Stalin list which forbids any serious political opponents >from taking part in the discussions at all! On affirmative action Communists defend this stuff despite that it will hardly solve the problems on women or the minorities. And that the feminists and reformists see in Affirmative action a single issue which they can use to reinforce their crendentials as "progressive" activists of some sort. And we defend this despite whatever the trade union bureaucracy says or does! We do not try and find excuses for not defending AA as you are doing you political coward. In fact affirmative action came about as the result of some really great struggles against rascism in the 50ties and sixties in order to head off any kind of deeper radicalization of people. At best reformist solution which in some cases actually helped some people to get in to places that never before were interested in employing minorities or women. These days when affirmative action like many other programs (welfare) that came out of the post war boom and struggles are under attack it is the duty of every Communist to defend these programs while at the same time clearly pointing out that these "reforms" and going back to the good old days is hardly in the interests of poor and working class people and in fact never were..It was a tactic by the class enemy under pressure to buy time... The present attacks on the reforms of the post war era have reasons. And two of the most important reasons are the demise of the former Soviet Union and the Eastern European deformed workers states and the fact that the contradictions of imperialist society in decay are once again turning towards a period of wars and revolutions in order to once again redevide the pie where the limit of relatively peaceful co-existence amongst the imperialists during the post war and cold war period against the Stalinist regimes has now come to and end. This period is being replaced with a growing inter-imperialist rivilry in a time where capitalist expansion and new markets is extremely limited. The present jockeying around the Balkan states, the middle east, connected to a declaration of war against the poor and working class populations at home quite clearly shows that utopian reforms like "affirmative action" and welfare are being thrown aside because the bougeoisie feeling victorious against the former Soviet Union feel it is no longer neccessary to appease sentiment at home. It is the chase after profits and markets which no longer exist like they did after the destruction of nearly half the world in the last war that is driving the various imperialists camps once again to the brink. Naturally the only thing that can stop this is a few victorious proletarian revolutions along the lines of October. However years of Stalinist political bankruptcy and mismanagement during a whole historical period has left the left in a almost complete political vacum along with diverse left overs of the various rotten opprtunist politics of the Stalinists in one form or the other. The lists M-I, M-G, the "unity" list, and now the Stalin list are good examples of the problems facing the revolutionary wing of the left today. Not only do we have to deal with these people but also the various clone versions of the preceding period that are beginning to pop up here today. A good step in this direction would be stopping all the political bans and rooten organisational manovres in order to avoid confronting political opponents. Only by a having a open discussion forum where all the various tendencies can fight it out will the cadre of the future be forged. Those who flee from open political discusssion whether they be fake Trotskyists, Stalinists, the ivory tower crowd or what ever by organisational tricks, bans, moderation (other then number of posts) are either political cowards who can not defend there politics or people who have something to hide from. The latest Stalin list and its "rules" being and excellent example of bluster and political cowardness.. Finally a word to Godena. Stop trying to play the white fucking knight for Aldolfo. His actions along with his partner Detcom and Mark are the actions of political cowards who can not openly defend their positions on this list. And in order to keep their rrrrevolutionary purity they have cowardly built the Stalin list and forbid any political opposition a platform. So Mr Clean you are defending not only a little click of thugs who show their steel boots from time to time, but political cowards who can not defend their positions on and open list but need to use organisational manovres and slanders. That is what you are really doing! And you at present are using the women's question and affirmative action in order to help these political cowards who have barricaded themselves on the Stalin list against people like Zeynep and Jon. In fact you are acting like the classical lackie who when push comes to shove can't take the hop. Godena stop trying to play both sides of the fence. Because in reality you are hardly doing that. Just trying to creat and image of that you are this really nice guy. I doubt it. You actions are based on your political positions and as of late those positions have gone from cleaning up Stalinism to supporting some of the more despicable political traditions of the Stalinists. Warm regards Bob Malecki -------------------------------------------------------- Check Out My HomePage where you can, Read the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara, Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Crystalball! Or Get The Latest Issue of, COCKROACH, a zine for poor and workingclass people http://www.algonet.se/~malecki -------------------------------------------------------- --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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