File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/current, message 8


Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 05:17:30 -0600
Subject: M-G: "Discussion" with/on Chris-B: More later


>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 1997 00:43:58 +0200 (MET DST),
>>>>> rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens) said:

> In fact, Zeynep, I've noted your great dislike for such discussions
> before. Doug has it too. Not that I think that any of you actually
> are colleagues of Chris-B:s, but it does very clearly show how
> warmly both your hearts beat for that class of yours of which
> he is a professional servant: the rotten good-for-nothing bourgeoisie.

Rolf, you are thinking you are fighting against the capitalist system
on this list and that you are driven by class hatred.  The feelings
which you have in your chest, which cause you to enter an entirely
baseless and uncalled-for attack on our comrade Chris B., and which
cause you to ignore the fact that you are destroying this list, which
*is* a forum of anticapitalist struggle, are not feelings of class
hatred but are the transference of certain bottled-up feelings which
you are harboring because you are afraid to experience them in their
proper context.  Before you can join those who are in fact fighting
the capitalist system you have to sort out your private issues because
experience shows that you are obstructing everybody else with your
problems.  You are so preoccupied with yourself and so much out of
contact with the real world, Rolf, that you are marching in the wrong
direction every single time you are trying to do something against
capitalism.

> And: Just for now, I shall not do any more "delugeing" on this
> subject. That's not because you Zeynep or your snotty coppper tells 
> me to, but simply because I've got other things to do at the moment
> which I think are more fruitful.

You are trying to tell yourself that you are passing your time
"fruitfully" while you are in fact hiding out in an illusionary world
in order not to face the realities which you should be confronting.

> Rolf M.


Hans Ehrbar.



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