File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9705, message 109


Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 10:24:51 +0200 (MET DST)
To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Re: M-G: Questions on China


Bob wrote, on 28.05:


>Well now be prepared Rob. Rolf is gonna dump about a couple hundred kb of 
>old "Unites" on the list. But OK..Another question Rolf. I noticed that you 
>are trying to creep out from under the fact that American capitalists 
>interests which are getting stronger everyday here as the welfare state is 
>being dismantled have the same position as you on the nuclear power plant.

The recent "FALSECARDING" on that issue by the US ambassador (who by the
way is NOT the ambassador of the whole American continent, as you
chauvinistically pretend) was precisely what I wrote about in my latest 
"UNITE Info". The real position of the main US ruling circles on
nuclear energy is precisely the opposite of what you're saying, and
is precisely *your* position on it - that's where you got it from.
This most people can understand.

 
>So now we have Rolf, the overwhelming majority of the Swedish Bougeoisie and 
>the American capitalist in a rotten block to save one piss ant nuclear power 
>plant. 

The role of the Trots is to cover up, with a phoney "leftist" mask,
the actions of the most right-wing bourgeoisie.

The Swedish bourgeoisie just recently has proposed to *destroy* the plant,
which is not a "piss" - well to you pro-US-govt. people perhaps but
not to the Swedish people, since it produces 6% of all electricity
here. The cost would be, it has recently been calculated, some SKR
60 bn, or $ 8 bn.

What do people in general think of it? Here in the southern province
of Scania, where I live and have informed people on this issue
and its social context for 20 years, 2 (two) per cent approve of
the government's plan. Uncretain are perhaps 10%. Some 80-90%
oppose the sabotage of Persson, of the USA, and of you Trots.

In the country as a whole, between 70% and 80% oppose it - according
to "polls" - which are always "slanted" in a reactionary direction. 

This is where single issuism and rotten maoist politics lead too.

Ive again and again pointed to the fact that this business by
no means is only about nuclear energy. It's part of a war
against industrial development and thus against the workers.

>And 
>I don't buy your excuse about the American capitalist being just this nice 
>private business man as you claim in your defense.

CAN you READ??

The US ambassador's "just being a business man" that's what, as
I wrote, some idiots tried to use as an argument for making
people believe that his camouflage attempt was *not* a political
ploy.

Precisely backwards, you get the simplest facts again.
>
>Rolf once again as usuall can never nor never can draw a class line.

A class line, for the workers, against Persson-US-imperialism-Trots.

Among those 2% here in Scania who're with you on the question of
that "unimportant" power plant producing 6% of all electricity
in Sweden, how many might also be with you on loving *the Soviet
Union of Brezhnev*, i.e. saying that it represented the Russian
revolution of 1917, that it was socialist (a superior system) etc?

Probably less than a quarter.

What I'm saying has the support of some 80-90%. What you're
saying, perhaps that of 0.5%, in this region.

"A class line", you're ranting about.

Rolf M.



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