Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 02:10:18 +0200 (MET DST)
To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Re: M-G: LL05121 Jim Hillier Public Meeting: Who are the real terrorists?


"Cucharacho" Bob M wrote, on 21.05:

(Rolf:)
>>Hello, Jim Hillier,
>>
>>Since you're posting this to M-G too, I on my part
>>am taking the liberty to ask you - who in the posting here
>>below are saying i.a that Cuba is "socialist" and that the
>>downfall of Soviet social-imperialism and social-fascism
>>was a downfall of "socialism" - have you and the other
>>moderator people on that LeninList of yours perhaps found the
>>time to consider my application for subscription to that
>>list which I sent to you, or to Adolfo to be exact, in late 
>>March?
>>
>>So far, I haven't received any answer to it.
>>
>>Strange, one might think - if one were somewhat naive, what?
>>
>>Rolf M.
>>
>
>Still begging on your knees Rolf? Extremely funny that the "maoists" and 
>"Stalinists" have actually banned you from the "Lenin" list. But on 
>principle I declare that the list should open the doors to you Rolf. 

I'm not "begging on my knees". I've applied for subscription to
the so-called LeninList. The quote above is hardly in a "begging"
vein, most people whould say. I think.

>If you spent just a little of your time taking on Aldolfo and Hillier who 
>claim to be the real supporters of Mao,s line and Marx and all the rest 
>instead of defending turning in Soviet spies to the Swedish secret police 
>and begging on your knees to be let in you would deserve a little more 
respect..
>
>Bob Malecki

Jim Hillier by no means claims to be a Mao Zedong adherent. In fact,
as all who can read probably will have seen, he in that posting
I replied to wholeheartedly defended Soviet social-imperialism,
just like you,ve been doing, Bob. This doesn't make any of you
actually a Soviet spy, only quite reactionary. Actual spies
of Russian new tsarism, and of US imperialism too, I shall
continue, on principle, to help the bourgeosie here in Sweden
catch, if they do want to catch them. Sweden is not a country on
a par with, or in the same international position as, Russia
(or the former Soviet Union of the last 3-4 decades) or the USA.
It's justified to support its independence against such powers,
while also of course combating its exploitation of the workers
"at home" and its participation in imperialism. The Trots
always support the *very worst" forces of imperialism in
the world, refusing to differentiate between intermidary
forces and the ultras; this shows up for the n:th time here in your
posting to, Bob.

Just as I'm subscribing to this list, where there are a few
people who openly applaud such things as the Soviet Union's
imperialist aggression and genocidal warfare against the
Afghan people, I'm interested in subscribing to the LeninList
where obviously there are such people too.

My application to that list has *not* been turned down.
I made it on 30.03 or thereabouts.

It "only" hasn't been replied to. *And* it has been said that
for one person - me - some particular rules apply in
connection with that list. It hasn't been said which rules.
So there obviously are some things here that stink, aren't
thee?

More on this in other contexts.

Rolf M.



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