Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 03:17:48 -0400
To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: M-G: Debate on Labour
Cc: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU


Rob writes;

>Did any of you take a look at the articles given to this list by Allan
>Woods from Socialist Appeal on the In Defense of Marxism web Page? There
>are some great articles on why to give critical support to the LP!!!
>	History has shown us time and time again, we have to work in the mass
>organizations of the working class.  Look at the failed German
>revolution.  The "red" unions were a complete disaster.  So were the
>sectarian splits in the Social Democratic Party and Communist Party.  If
>you split the advanced layer of the working class from the rest of the
>class, you aren't going to "create" a mass movement.  The advanced layer
>has to work with the rest of the class, in the mass organs, be it a CP
>or SDP or union or whatever.  The examples of Spain, South Africa, the
>list goes on! all show us where we have to work. 

Rob is confused! He knows obviously not very much about third period 
Stalinism nor the left opposition when he starts comparing Germany with the 
discussionn of critical support in the last election. In fact the line of 
the Stalinists was that the Social Democracy was "SOcial Fascist" and the 
turn meant supporting the Nazi's
against the Social Democracy. Are you saying that Malecki's line on critical 
support is the same?
 
>	No offence Bob but your new "revision" on Trotskyism has been all said
>and done before, and failed!!!!  This new trend is not really all that
>new.  Classic Sectarianism.  It's not whether the party is left or
>right, Marxist or Reformist, but where the class is.  Everything we do
>is in the interest of the working class.  Not ourselves!  I know it's
>frustrating to work amongst bureacrats, but that's where the class is!
>Nick made some good points about how his LP leaflets were more left than
>the SLP members.  How is the SLP going to properly represent the working
>class?  The class itself doesn't support it.
>	The same thing is happening in Canada.  The New Left Forum is trying to
>split form the NDP, but they can't get any support, from the class, the
>advanced layer, or dissilusioned NDP members. 

Oh no you don't Rob! This is the classical Bernstien revisionist plan of 
defeat. If it is big enough then we support it. And to even believe that 
anybody could actually claim that the campaign of Tony Blair was to the left 
of the SLP is appalling. In fact every report coming from Britain pointed 
out that Blair had co-opt the political program of the Tories. That was the 
fundemental picture at least here in Sweden on the election movement and 
even now after the election with Blair's first appearance in the common 
market the signals are that Blair on the fundementals has a Tory line with a 
social face. Only complete idiots could possibly believe that anything else 
is the case or find that there in ability to break with "new" labor and are 
trying to use some sort of bizaar form of painting up anybody who does not 
suck up to the LP and laborism as some sort of ultra left nuts. 
 
>	The NDP candidate for my riding is a revolutionary!  He's a Trot
>without an organization because the CP is Stalinist and isolated, the
>Trotskyist organizations are very small, elitist, and sectarian, so he
>works in the NDP where he can talk to and patiently explain our ideas in
>direcvt contact with the workers.
>	Anyway, I must run, but I encourage you all to check out Socialist
>Appeal's "In Defense of Marxism web page":

As far as the NDP and doing a deep entry it sounds like the American version 
of the militant group which liquidated any kind of revolutionary politics in 
order to bury itself in the Social Democracy..

>
>	P.S. :  Bob I support you and your constant struggle with the
>"Moderators" of these list.  You must be doing something right if they
>keep getting angry enough to kick you off two of the lists!  Support Bob
>Malecki!!!!

Thanks Rob:) I am probably only the first person who has been thrown off M-F 
by a Stalinist moderater for saying "feminist ballbuster" in a polemic 
against a viscious sexist attack against Freud! To top it all off the same 
moderater is defending the "Cocksucker" stuff on M-I. Not to mention Yoshie 
who has been very silent on the other list on this axe operation by Carrol. 

Long Live the Cocksuckers! The cry of the Stalinists!

Death to the Feminist Bullbusters! The actions of the Stalinists.

The new slogans and norms at Jefferson village. If Malecki or any Trot does 
it expel them. If the Stalinists do it it is right just and honerable!

As I said I have never met a more dishonest bunch of Stalinist clowns and 
lackies then here at Jefferson Village..

Warm Regards
Bob Malecki



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