File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9705, message 72


Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 01:17:05 -0400
To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: M-G: Spoon now a strategic drawing-room


Dave writes;
>
>Bob .  Lets get a few things straight. First, I wrote to you as an 
>individual not a member of the LCMRCI, so get that straight. Second,  
>I am against moderated lists as you know, I am certainly not in 
>favour of Cox's unilateral action in banning you and said so.  You 
>are going way beyond the bounds of politics, even reason, to claim 
>that I am blocking with Cox on this one. So get that straight. Third, 
>in my opinion you were unjustified in labelling someone a "feminist 
>ballbreaker".  The principle which you dodge again, is that this 
>label is not political polemic but name-calling, something which you 
>have fought against on these lists.  You cannot them change the rules 
>and complain when you are on the receiving end.
>

Glad to see that you are covering the ass of the Lcmcri Dave. Now that is 
what I call tactics! Was just preparing a Cockroach with your new incredible 
position! I will refrain from attacking the Lcmcri on this and just you.. 
But I will point out that you are a leading member of the Lcmcri!

Oh yes you are in favor of Cox's bureaucratic measures and are supporting 
the new norms at Jefferson Village. Because it is not the list that is 
making the "special" rules it is Cox the Stalinist moderater. Just which 
rule have I broken Dave?

Is it that I do not have the same pre-conditioned set of table manners as 
the rest of the crowd here? Or are you just still affected by the recent 
round between the Lcmcri and Cockroach and making a rotten block with the 
Stalinists to get even?

Is it the saying things like "feminist ballbuster" rule? Am I surpose to 
apologize on pain of being expelled forever! Since when is a women's 
accusations that Freud was a political coward-defended child sex 
offenders--and all the rest any better then
"Feminist ballbuster"? And Cox's "provacateur" which certainly is far worse 
in that it is linked to cop baiting that the Stalinists time and again use 
against political opponents! Or how about "Cocksucker"..?

And as far as labels don't talk about principles. It was not too long ago 
that the Lcmcri were saying that Malecki and Cockroach were another 
"icepick" Aldolfo! However unlike you I would never demand you apologize to 
get back on the list where no rule was broken.. And the accusations were in 
political context just as my "ball busting" term was..

No Dave..I am sorry you have joined the new team at Jefferson Village who 
with bureaucratic measures are trying to insure that certain people not be 
allowed to participate in the discussions. I notice that the Stalinist Cox 
line of labeling people "provacateur" seems not to arouse the same rage on 
M-F as Malecki and the "Feminist Ballbuster"..Nor you Dave! Because you have 
now the same line as Carrol! Apoligize or banned forever....

The only principle being dodged here is your unwillingness to admit that you 
have joined the "special" rules crowd demanding that I apologize for 
breaking some rule that Cox dreamed up in order to get me dumped from the 
list. I have not broken any rule of the M-F charter. It is the Stalinist 
Cox's own special rule which you are now crowing about..Well Fuck off Dave! 
I certainly am not going to apologize and will certainly accept the moral 
condemnation act and Stalinist highwire act that you have now jumped on 
too..I am forced to do that..By the powers that be.

By the way Hugh Thanks for your clear sightness on this issue. Although I 
disagree about tactics. But you might be right! It is not exactly my strong 
point!  And I also disagree with you about Dave. He has joined the Stalinist 
norms here in demanding I apologize for breaking a rule that does not exist 
and is only and excuse by the Stalinists to axe Malecki. Dave is swatting 
"Trotskyists" flies and swallowing Stalinist Camels!  Could it be that Dave 
is joining the highwire morals act and rules committee at Jefferson Village 
because of the recent round between the Lcmcri and Cockroach? Nothing would 
surprise me because historically the center always in the end winds up 
blocking with the right when attacked from the left. And in this case i find 
Dave's moral highwire act in fact and acceptance of the new Stalinist norms 
being set up where the Stalinist scream "Cocksucker" and "provacateur" and 
Dave joins the very same crowd in demanding Malecki apologise! How quaint 
Dave. But very sickening to this militant's eyes and principles.

And I am like and elephant in a tea salong. But elephants have one thing 
worth mentioning long memories. And this elephant intends to remember well 
Dave and his siding with the Stalinists and their rules against the victim..

Believe it or not Dave you are helping to dig not Malecki's grave but your 
own if you continue along the present course you have embarked on. So enjoy 
your new found friends-rules and morals while it lasts!

Warm regards
Bob Malecki



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