File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9705, message 85


Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:11:34 +0200 (MET DST)
To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Re: M-G: Afghan, Trots, Mao,


Bob wrote, on 27.05:

(Rolf, to Bob's co-Trot Rob:)
............
>>Your "two legs" happen to stand 10 miles apart from each
>>other, Rob. Your Trot bourgeois ideology is caught up in an
>>irreconciliable contradiction, which shows up very very
>>clearly precisely on this question.
>>
>>Rolf M.
>
>Rolf you become more bizaar for everyday that goes.

High praise, Cucharacho Mobutu!

>The great age of 
>Maoist-Stalinist politics is dead at least in the western industrial 
>countries.

It hardly ain't started yet!

>Nobody will bye this stuff. 

What? Look at my latest UNITE Info to see how (well, that's
what I suppose at least) I and some others, few people, are
scaring the shit out of (or some shit out of) the ambassador
of your (ideological) master (when all is said and done), US
imperialism. 

>Not even the maoists who have any 
>serious political line today can possibly believe this "social imperialist" 
>garbage that you have been peddling for years. 

You just ask the other citizens of Robertsfors, Sweden, Robert,
about what *they* think of the ex-Soviet Union of later decades.
Taking up a right-extremist standpoint of *defending* that
vile fascism, and even calling it "socialism", that's really
typical for Trotskyism. Will ordinary people ever fall for
such crap? Never on your life. They may not know the scientific
designation social-imperialism. That your "paradise" was *hell*
for ordinary people they know very well.

>You have been reduced to zero. In fact here in Sweden which was very strong 
>during the Vietnam days what is left nothing except Rolf who at best finds 
>himself in and alliance with just about anybody to save one piss ant nuclear 
>power plant. The rest of the time as of late your have beeen the foremost 
>cheerleader of the Kabila forces. 

Thanks!

........
>
>And it is really funny your claiming almost everybody on the list to be 
>Trotskyists including Doug,Hans and Chris B. And in fact the Lenin list are 
>accusing you of being a Trotskyist..

When? Where? There is no person called "the LeninList". It consists
of several people. Jim Hillier, for instance, isn't he a Brezhnev
lover like yourself? It would be ridiculous in the extreme to call
*me* a "Trot" - especially on the part of such ideological friends
of yours.

On the ridiculous contradictory bourgeois term "Stalinism" -
sorry, I haven't written that standard reply posting yet.

Rolf M.





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