Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:21:15 -0400
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-G: Reply from a trotskyite-bukharinite gangster! (2)


Part 2...

Vlad continues;

>  The lesson of the Soviet catastrophe.  In  any circumstances,
> there is one ultimate criterion for Marxist politics: that
> is good that raises class consciousness, that is bad that inhibits it.  
> The decades of bureaucratic absolutism not only threw far back 
> the political consciousness and social imagination of the Soviet 
> workers; they also obliterated the theoretical tradition of orthodox 
> Marxism and the very ideals of the movement.  All forms
> of opportunism - which, in the last analysis, the present Russian 
> communist movement is all about - have their social and ideological
> roots in the Soviet past.  In ideology, they derive from the 
> fetishism of the state and technical progress, and from the 
> rejection of the theory of class struggle and proletarian
> internationalism as the foundations of Marxist epistemology
> and politics.  These are also the main features of  
> false consciousness in the working class. But in our workers 
> we also find important elements of an advanced consciousness
> that transcend the limited horizon of Western workers and 
> facilitate the radicalization of labor movement in Russia.
> Unlike their counterparts in old capitalist countries, Russian
> workers don't have to solve the "secret" of the origin of 
> private property.  They clearly see on it not an halo of "sacredness"
> but the fingerprints of thieves and gangsters. Their memory and 
> habits of Soviet production for satisfaction of needs rather
> than for profit make the consciousness of our workers less 
> vulnerable to commodity fetishism that underlies all forms
> of false consciousness under capitalism.  Finally, even the
> most ferocious reaction cannot erase from the memory of the class
> its heroic period.  In their first attempts at organized struggle 
> Russian workers find in the soviet a form created by their forefathers."
> 
Bob wrote:
> I think the above statement by you very honest Vlad. 
> But politically dead wrong! On the one hand you take your
> hate of the bureaucracy and its "fetishism" to task and as
> a solution unfortunately make "Soviets" a fetishism! In fact 
> if I rember my history correctly the Soviets between February
> 1917 and October 1917 were in fact and obstacle to the October
> Revolution. In fact  because it really depends on who is 
> leading those Soviets where and not that putting a pair of
> blue jeans on and saying i am a member of the local Soviet 
> makes me revolutionary! In fact Soviets are fighting 
> expressions of the proletariat in pre Revolutionary and
> Revolutionary times just as trade unions are and expression
> of the proletariat in more peace eras. But the point is
> who is standing at the head of these mass organisations
> of the Proletariat and where this leadership wants to take
> the Proletariat.

Vlad replies;
Again, a typical Stalinist denunciation worthy of Vyshinsky.
If some one says that the Russian workers use in their struggle 
the truly proletarian form of organization created by their
forefathers it amounts to fetishization of the soviets, and therefore
to the depreciation of the role of the Party, and hence, to that of its
leadership, and finally of Comrade Stalin.  How can the proletariat
defend itself from this new fascistic assault on its sinews of strenghts
by the trotskyite-bukharinite gangsters?  Even the bourgeois
philanthropes
(the Webbs) would agree this time on the right of the proletariat to use
any mesures in self-defense.  Does bob realize that by making fetish out
of the party, more exactly, the "leadership" (the catch-word of modern
trotskyism) he finds himself again on the side of Stalinists? Why?
Because, like them, he is a vulgur marxist, incapable of grasping the 
dialectical relationship between the organizational forms of the
proletarian dictatorship (the soviets) and its vanguard, the party.
His thought moves within reified contents of the bourgeois
consciousness.
He separates the soviets and the party like he does counter-revolution
and 
fascism.  He doesn't see the dialectical unity underlying them.

Ah Vlad! Now we come down  through the pork to the bone! The bottom
line of your political trajectory. That is you equate Bolshevik/
Leninist/Trotskyist poliyics on the party question as being the
same as the Stalinist on the party question!

A new trick in neo-Stalinists politics comes to light. Now it is the
"trotskyite-bukharinite gangsters?" and the Stalinists that are
the real woes of Russian workers! Amazing Vlad. 

In the first place Soviets are hardly the party! So why should one
make the claim that they should be as you do. The party is the
vanguard of the most advanced elements who fight in the Soviets
for a revolutionary program against others political formations
that would like to lead the Soviets down another political path.
In the final analisis the Soviets can only take the path of a
program of revolution or counter-revolution depending on who 
leads what where. It is not just organisational form but leadership
that is decisive in every pre-revolutionary or revolutionary
situation. 

The Trotskyists are the party of the Russian revolution!
The Stalinists are the party who beheaded that revolution with 
a political line which defended theit bureacratic caste priviledges.
And sabotaged just about ever pre revolutionary and revolutionary
situation since the great October revolution. 

The Trotskyists were hounded, put on trial and murdered for their
opposition to the Stalinist political course sunfortunately very
successfully. Leading to first the victory of the Stalinist 
bureaucracy and its politics in the workers movement over a
whole historical period and which came to a tragic and 
dramatic end in the late 80ties and 90ties. This also predicted by the
Trotskyist left opposition!

And now you as a neo-Stalinist clone want to put Trotskyism and 
"Stalinism in the garbage heap of history as "evil" only the 
real problem is that while condeming the "trotskyite-bukharinite 
gangsters?" and Stalinists--and now claiming that Soviets without
any kind of revolutionary leadership can solve the problem in some sort
of anti-fascist front against the Yeltsin click.Including such
revolutionary tactics like critical support to the Russian CP in
the last elections to avert "civil war" which was in reality a
pathetic attempt at a parlimentry coup by one wing of Stalinism in a
rotten block with ultra right wing nationalist elements in back of
the workers and their mass organisations.

Not only do you make Soviets a fetish but politics to a new level
of despicable absurdity with this "new" anti "trotskyite-bukharinite 
gangsters?" and Stalinist line! The Stalinist must be really getting
desperate when doing this. They know deep down in there hearts that
the spectre of Trotsky and the left opposition is haunting them. They
know that there are real Trotskyists who are doing everything in
there power to get into the former Soviet Union with some real
Communist politics after decades of Stalinist counter revolutionary
politics and now the new cleaned up neo-Stalinist version of politics
which is taking the former Soviet union down the road to disaster. 

It is not Yeltsin that is the obstacle to independent mobilisation
of the Russian proletariat for a desperate struggle for new Octobers
in all of the former republics of the USSR. It is the Stalinist and
neo-Stalinist left-overs who in trying to cover their despicable tracks
are doing all kinds of hat numbers to avoid the spectre of confronting
a real Bolshevik/Leninist/Trotskyist party with a program and tactics
for not only a new Russian Revolution but revolutions in many parts
of this planet.

Bob wrote;
> 
> So with your popular front analisis of impending fascism in
> the former Soviet Union connected to both a program of
> "National Salvation" in alliance with alien class forces,
> and making a fetish of the mass organisations of the Workers
> like Soviets I believe it honestly to be a formula for
> a new round of disasters for Russian workers. 
>You complete neglect
> of a *real* Bolshevik/Leninist/Trotskyist revolutionary 
> Internationalist Party with sections in all of the former
> republics in a reforged Fourth International with the program
> and goal of overthrowing every ruling class in every country in
> the world connected to political revolutions in those deformed
> workers states that still exist China,Korea, Vietnam and Cuba,
> well the workers in the former Soviet Union will only be 
> tricked into a new round of bankrupt neo Stalinist politics
> that will not take them anywhere nor give them any power.

Vlad replied;
Your ad nauseum repetition of this fake revolutionary rhetoric
has nothing to do with Marxism as Lenin and Trotsky understood it.
Marxism is nothing if it is not the science of the real.  And real
is concrete.  Tell me about the *concrete* program of struggle, the
concrete *actions* of your fake "*real* Bolshevik/Leninist/Trotskyist 
revolutionary  Internationalist Party with sections in all of the former
republics in a reforged Fourth International."  And if you don't
I WILL PUBLICLY DENOUNCE YOU AS A LIAR WHO WORKS AGAINST THE REAL
ORGANIZATION OF EURASIAN PROLETARIAT BY PROMOTING GHOST COMMUNIST
ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE IT HAS BEEN DONE BY FBI AND OTHER SPECIAL SERVICES
IN THE WEST.

The final windup and ultimate Stalinist or should I sat neo-Stalinist
provacation! Our program is fairly simple and quite public in tens 
of thousands of documents published throughout the years. Since 1923
and onwards there is I direct thread of programatic continuity between
the Bolshevik/Leninists in Russia to the left opposition to Stalin led by
Trotsky and the creation of the Fourth International. Since then and
because of the Stalinist liquidation tactics of eliminating the Trotskyists
historically and the Pabloite liquidationist line that developed in the FI
after durind and especially after the second world war has caused its 
problems both politically and organisationally. However Trotskyism is quite
alive and well as a political tendency whereas the Stalinist are forced
to all kinds of hat tricks in order to continue with there rotten politics.
With the destruction of the Soviet Union Stalinism as the fundemental
obstacal in the workers movement has recieved its death blow and all
attempts to resurrect it again will be met by the authodox Trotskyists.

Our programatic base is the transitional program, the permanent revolution,
and the tactics and thesisis of the furst four congresses of the Third
International and naturally the great theroretical and struggle over program and
tactics that the left opposition under the leadership of Trotsky carried out
under extremely hard and deadslky dangerous conditions. What have the 
Stalinists got? Dip shit Vlad. They have to renounce pappa Stalin while
at the same time get bogged down in all kinds of neo-Stalinists tactics and
politics. Nothing in fact has changed very much on the programatic and 
tactical level that faces poor and working class people today. The only
difference is that the stalinist bureaucracy no longer has state
power in the former USSR to carry out their reactionary and counter-
revolutionary political line on anywher including Russia! 

Sooner or later the power of the tactics and program of trotskyism will
confront not only workers in the former USSR but workers in every
contry in the world. Fundementally there are four basic currents
internationally which have confronted workers since the beginning
of Revolutionary Marxism. Anachism,reformism (the seond international),
Stalinism and finally the Bolshevik/Leniniist/Trotskyists. It will
be between these currents that the future battles for leadership of
the International Proletariat take place. So go ahead and expose me
rto the world Vlad.You neo-Stalinist line of trying to put Stalin,Trotsky 
and "trotskyite-bukharinite gangsters?" in the same boat just won't work.

Program and tactics will be decisive in forming the future reforged
Communist International not only in the former USSR but everywhere.
I am quite convinced that Cockroach and Malecki will go into the
anals of history as part of those Trotskyist forces who under
extremely difficult conditions kept the flag waving high over the
heads of those who stepped off into the swamp or like yourself
appear to be on the road of resurrecting Stalinist politics without
Stalin.

And the last of painting Malecki up as and FBI agent at best. Now
it seems that you also are prepared to take the same road as 
Proyect the neo-Stalinist yellow journalist and not in the least 
Aldolfo who claims that all opponents to him and his bizaar
Peruvian third period Stalinist model are agents of Fujimora.

Yes the stalinists appear to be getting desperate! Blowing cop/
agent farts in all the four points of the workers movement compass
when confronted with some hard political confrontation from a
fairly unintelligent ex Spartacist/International Spartacist Tendency
who appears to make our neo-Stalinists begin to foam at the mouth!

But I must say I was quite surprised that you Vlad would finally
have to stupe to these kind of tactics. I guess talking to Rolf
our aging and isolated Maoist who is ex-communicated from the
Lenin-List and openly claims is love for the Swedish Sapo in
going to these imperialist cops to turn in agents of Soviet
imperialim has affected you thinking. Or perhaps this answer
is just and attempt to back up your anti-trotskyist credentials
which appear to be the norm in taking part in discussions
in the Russian CP envionment..But I must say you have crossed
the class with this last threat. And my future answers will
certainly not be as polite as this one has been. 

Bob Malecki and Cocxkroach..
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