Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 07:17:24 +0200 (MET DST)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: M-G: UNITE! Info #43en: 6/6 Ola E-son & Ola Echea - eech!


UNITE! Info #43en: 6/6 Ola E-son & Ola Echea - eech!
[Posted: 19.07.97]

[Continued from part 5/6]


Ola Eriksson & Ola Echea - eech! (6)
[Posted: 16.07.97]

This is part of a debate on the Marxism-General mailing list
(M-G) managed by the Spoon Collective (see http://jefferson.
village.Virginia.EDU/~spoons/), and is also sent to newsgroups.


Generals (and you who're not yet on that list too),

[See intro text of item (5), part 5/6; I'm not repating it here
 - RM, 19.07.97]


This item (6) thus continues with a long quote - which I don't
think there's any need to comment on; I offer the readers:

A POSTING BY OLA ERIKSSON TO M-G ON 13.07.97:

From: olae-AT-interact.se (Ola Eriksson)
To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Subject: M-G: Re: Ola Eriksson & Ola Echea - eech! (4)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:34:06 GMT


rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens) wrote:

Usually I don=B4t read Rolf Martens postings. Now he have
slandering against LeninList and me personally in about 20
newsgroups where I=B4m not connected, in about 15  postings, the
last two weeks, maybe longer. My internet connection haven=B4t
worked the last 3 month.

I don=B4t care; no one care about him. No one even read what Rolf
Martens is writing. I tried to write a letter to the moderator of
the spoon-list, but i noticed that there was no moderator on
marxism-general.

Not it=B4s time to say something;I guess.. Well, I=B4m not going to
start a debate with Rolf Martens, I don=B4t want to make people
belive that I am the same kind; only a fool will discuss with a
fool.

One should not participiate in debates with political maniacs.But
anyway I had to say something about this . Yes; i know; it=B4s a
stupidity to even answer him..

 I hope people who are reading this are going to show Rolf
Martens that they don=B4t accept such a behaviour.Propably many
readers of this posting allready told him their opinion..

>Ola Eriksson & Ola Echea - eech! (4)
>This is part of a debate on the Marxism-General mailing list
>(M-G) managed by the Spoon Collective (see http://jefferson.
>village.Virginia.EDU/~spoons/), and is also sent to newsgroups.

Well, you have now distributed slander about me in about 20
international newsgroups and mailinglists. I have replied some
your postings here in swnet.politik, but obviously you  want to
avoid to be responsible for your slander, and write about my
person in newsgrops and mailinglists where i don=B4t participiate.
Some of the newsgroups you write in, can=B4t I reech from this
server, I hope you are satisfied.

>Generals - and other readers too (to whom I once more recommend,
>if you're interested in Marxism: get on that mailing list),

I also recomend that mailinglist, it=B4s a mailinglist where people
like rolf martens are writing. I hope everybody sometime are
going to be satisfied with their choice, even pettyborgeous
people like Rolf Martens, so he is going to stop slandering us.

>Olaechea wants a *fascist* dictatorship of the bourgeoisie,
>precisely like the one that existed in the Soviet Union from
>the 1960:s on and which was so sharply and so correctly repudia-
>ted by Mao Zedong.

Some month ago I warned the members of the LeninList about your
participiation. I wrote that you don=B4t prefer to call communists
"comrade", you usually call them "pig","nazi", "fascist" and so
on. I guess Adolfo now is glad that he recieved this information
in advance, now he don=B4t need to read your antisocialist point of
view inside our LeninList

>THE REVEALING ALLIANCE OLA ERIKSSON - OLA ECHEA

Rolf; you are a political maniac. This subjectline are typical
for your way of thinking. I don=B4t know Adolfo Olachea personally,
we even havent replied eech others postings in the LeninList yet.
I even havent read LeninList the last 2=BD month..

>That of course is also why, despite the fact that Olaechea tries
>to fool people into believing that he's a "Mao Zedong adherent",
>in the last weeks so very revealingly has joined forces with the
>single "tool" he's been able to find here in Sweden *against me*,
>the actual Mao Zedong adherent, namely the ridiculous extreme
>propagandist of (former) Soviet social-imperialism, R--k-Ola
>Eriksson, Luel=E5.

I am not against maoism, nor any other leftist "ism". I am 80%
socialist and 100% marxist-Leninst. We are all one community, and
have 80% of our opinions as a common belive; trotskyist, maoists,
anarchists..

Everybody; exept You ! They expelled you from the
maoistorganization in stockholm, they expelled you from the
KPML(r); the expelled you from a lot of other organizations
because you are *hostile* against socialists.

>(On this, see for instance my posting on 01.07, "Titbits from
>SiberiaSwamp (1): Olaechea's comrade in Sweden". It contains a
>sample of Ola Eriksson's writings, railings against my line, to
>be precise, which I promise will give all readers a good laugh.)

You havent replied here in swnet.politik, obviously you are
slandering in newsgroups I can=B4t reech.

>Why, then, does Olaechea so bitterly hate, in particular, me?
>I'll get back to that question later.
No one Rolf, remember me ; no one hate you! One can not hate
shit, or call shit for "fascism".

>And GUESS WHO would be among the "AUTOCRATS" ruling that system!! =09
>Would I be totally wrong in presuming that this group, interna-
>tionally, would include Ola Eriksson, Sweden, and Ola Echea,
>UK?? What do you say, folks?
>Only, these silly bastards are dreaming, of course.
I don=B4t even understand what you are talking about. You are
writing slander about mee, in 20 newsgroups I doesnt=B4t
participiate in. This posting for exampe are crossposted in
eunet.politics, a newsgroup I cant reech, and also crossposted in
the spoon mailinglist, where i don=B4t participiate. As I said
before; Rolf you are a political maniac..

>THE INCA (OR SOCIAL-IMPERIALIST) "POST OFFICE" SYSTEM - RUN
>BY (OF COURSE) OLA ERIKSSON, OLA ECHEA AND THEIR FRIENDS
>(NO, YOU'RE *NOT* ALLOWED TO LAUGH! THE POSTMAN WILL COME
>AND GET YOU!)

unbelivable.. How glad I am today to show our comrades on our
LeninList that i didn=B4t accegerated when i adviced them to not
give you acces to our mailinglist. Rof;You are MAD !

>Yes, yes, Ola Echea, we all know that one - you people
>of the Chrushchev and Brezhnev type trying to pass off your
>actual or only hoped-for *fascist* dictatorship as a
>"dictatorship of the proletariat".

Rolf I guess you feel proud if I tell you that you are a thru
enemy to all socialists, and all socialist organisations.

Still I havent got an answer on my question here in swnet.
politik.

Tell us:

1) Does *anyone* call you "COMRADE" ?

2) Does ANY political party accept you as a member ?

3) Does even the conservative here in swnet.politik call you a
communist ?

>But so far, the postmen at least have *not* been given
>policemen's authority. You don't have to fear being woken
>up at 3 o'clock in the morning *by some "postmen"* and
>taken away to a concentration camp, such as you would no
>doubt be risking, if people like Ola Eriksson and Ola
>Echea would somehow be given state power.
Rolf Martens wrote 2=BD years ago that he had collected arms at
home, he said it=B4s necessary to use them at people like me.

>In the (fantasy) state of Ola Eriksson, Ola Echea etc,
>people in general would be treated, handled by these
>"postmasters", as *letters or packages*.
I don=B4t know what you are talking about, I have never discussed
ever about any kind of "postmasters" with you. But i guess that
all the people reading this understand that this is just a
imagination from a sick brain.

>Olachea is sceptical about old Pausey, thinking that he and
>his small party in Germany might want to "replace" *his*,
>Olaechea's "Inca tribe" as (the idiotically but actually
>hoped-for) "world leadership", that of the Ola Eriksson -
>Ola Echea (etc) revisionist "tribe", a "leadership" which
>Olaechea hopes to obtain by proclaiming comrade Gonzalo as
>"world Inca cult figure" (poor comrade Gonzalo, he certainly
>would not have wanted that!) and portraying that "cult
>figure", of course, as one "completely without faults".

fragment from a sick brain..

[So far the posting by Ola Eriksson to M-G on 13.07 - it did
break off at the point above.]


[So far the reposting of this recent 6-part series]


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