File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9708, message 123


Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 02:31:42 +0200 (MET DST)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Re: M-G: Radiotime Norway! 


Bob Malecki wrote, on 23.08,

and just because I was born in the country he doesn't get
all the facts straigt on (as usual), a few briefies:

>This is the first draft report for Straightfacts Radio on the
>upcoming election in Norway.

Better call it Skewfacts

>popularist and racist party of Carl E. Hagen "Framstegspartiet",
>which for our American audience can be translated to Forwardstep
>Party, has in opinion polls grown from a insignificant 4% party in
>the last election to today where opinion polls are giving them
>25% of the vote!

N=E5 er det s=E5nn at det heter IKKE "Framstegspariet" p=E5 norsk -
dette er svensk.

"Fremskrittspartiet" is the correct name in Norwegian - and yes,
it's an awful party, eacist etc. But its translation would be
something of the order of "Progress Party", not "onestep" etc etc.
Equally a misnomer of course.

Then there's just that old Trot inability to differentiate
between

1) socialism
and
2) social-imperialism and social-fascism (as was on in
the Soviet Union from the 60s on etc)

>In fact these events have both a historical context and a *real*
>political "What should we do with the oil money" connection. And
>naturally must seen in relationship to the enormous effect that the
>destruction of the Soviet Union through capitalist counter-revolution
>has had on this continent.

Meaning, that the 1989-91 changes were "bad", on the whole.
On the contrary, internationally, this had a wholesome effect.
Social-imperialism was beaten. True, the Russians etc got it
worse - which had to do with the *much earlier* overthrow of
socialism in the SU.

>What we are probably seeing is a mild
>version of things to come now that the Stalinists led ex-Soviet Union
>through years of bureucratic misrule, counter-revolutionary political line
>and finally capitalist counter-revolutionary betrayal no longer exists!


Not "finally". The betrayal was complete in the late 1950s.
>
That is fear of outside occupation in a
>major military confrontation. The price for this NATO military umbrella
>historically has been a loyal anti-communist servant of imperialism.
>Including doing every dirty trick in the book (which would make Nixon's
>Watergate affair look like Kindergarden) in order to smash, infiltrate and
>destroy left wing organisations in the workers movement.

Since you cannot see the difference between socialism and social-
fascism, this is a complete muddle of course.

Historically for Norwegians
>Communism is the same thing as the Nazi occupation!

YOUR kind of "communism"is, Bob M. This the ordinary Norwegians
understand, while you *don't*.

Occupation by YOUR BUDDY Brezhnev etc *would* have bben
EVEN WORSE than a rule by that bastard Hagen.


>The left in Norway is in a horrible mess. 

Not in such a mess which there exists in your head, Bob.

Don't say I haven't tried to help you entangle it!

Rolf M.



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