File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9709, message 149


Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:09:14 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: Re: M-G: Radiotime Poland!



	Good day to everybody,

	I've been trying to keep silent for almost 5 months understanding
that such a reactionary as I'm thought to be must not interfere in the
list of Marxists, so I've limited my interest to browsing through the
e-mails from M-I and M-G lists. But today when I saw Bob Malecki's report
I decided that enough was enough!

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997, Robert Malecki wrote:

> This is the first draft report for Straightfacts Radio on the 
> elections in Poland.
> 
> Good Evening.  This is Bob Malecki reporting for Straight Facts
> somewhere in northern Scandinavia quite near the Polar Circle!
> 
> Poland!
> 
> Stalin once uttered the infamous quote "How many devisions 
> can the pope mobilize"! Well if Stalin were alive today he 
> would probably have to say quite a few. Because as the election
> results come in from Poland it is the Chatholic Church who has 
> won a landslide victory against the ex-Stalinist now "Socialist
> Party of Poland. The popes troops are politically represented
> in the form of a "Solidarnosc" coalition who on a program
> of making the church,NATO and capitalist pipedreams of pie in 
> the sky the center of its political program have become the
> driving force of capitalist restoration in this country!
 
	Question 1: How do you know which troops are the pope's and which
are not?

> Although the Solidarnosc coalition made the most noise about the
> church becoming the center of Poland and Polish family life in 
> their ivor to support the pope who is financing there whole 
> operation. The Socialist Party of ex-Stalinists were bragging
> that it was they that have brought capitalist prosperity and
> "Salmon" on the table as a luxourious example and the party that took
> Poland under the imperialist NATO umbrella!
> 
> Well let's not talk about which of these parties of capitalist
> retoration and counter-revolution who won the elections but who 
> lost the and that is equovically the Polish Working class..

	Why don't you stop cheating yourself, Bob? Who do you think let
AWS Solidarnosc win the victory? The pope who voted 8 million times,
wretched capitalists just imported from Wall Street? No - it was the
workers, i.e. the Polish Working class...

> Like the Baltic states Poland in its drive towards capitalism
> the working class has on the short term made some partiell 
> significant gains. More commodities on the shelfs but inflation
> connected to capitalist accumilation and austerity is making it
> more difficult for working people to buy these new commodities.
 
	Yes, I see that you'd be more glad with very few commodities on
the shelves (only vinegar as I recall from the early 1980s...) and all
food being rationed but at the same time workers having pockets full of
inlated money. Is that what you'd prefer?

> One should also point out that this on the surface economic
> uppswing comes as the capitalists/imperialists downsize and
> impoverish their own working classes at home in order to
> bring the wonders of the capitalist way of life to Poles.
> 
> Thus every dollar invested in Poland is putting workers in other 
> countries on the dole and bread lines. It is a short term expansion
> that is on its way to the brink. Because there is no long term
> solution to the shrinking world market and growing inter-imperialist
> rivilry in the long run..

	Could you please elucidate on that "every dollar invested in
Poland"? I must say that I can't see any connecton...
> 
> Most of the Polish left has taken their cue from either the
> ex-Stalinists or the popes divisons in the form of Solidarnosc.  
> Both of the formations are set on a course of capitalist restoration
> and neither of these groups want to ruffle the feathers of the
> Pope and the Catholic church. However the Pope since the very forming
> of Solidarnosc in its eary days was set on the destruction of
> the Soviet Union and the rebirth of this medivial institution
> of reaction as the norm in Polish life. And no matter how deeply
> these ex-Stalinists bow to the pope and capitalist restoration
> it will not give them any bougeois respectability.


	You tend to forget that both the pope and the Catholic Church are
not as powerful as you'd like them to be. Why can't you realize that
communism in Poland and other European countries crashed because PEOPLE
DID NOT WANT IT!!!
 > Communists never gave any political support to Solidarnosc
as it > became obvious that it was the extended arm of the catholic church
> and its counter-revolutionary medevil ideology and pro capitalist 
> conter-revolutionary thrust. In fact it was ONLY the International
> Communist League that understood the character of Solidarnosc
> and its leaders who were tied to the Chatholic church. It was
> back in those critical days the slogan "No too Clerical Reaction!"
> and defense of the deformed Polish Workers state against Solidarnosc
> and the chatholic church and their program of capitalist 
> counter-revolution was raised by the Trotskyists connected to
> fighting for a political revolution to oust the Stalinist bureaucracy.
> But in a choice between the Pope and capitalist restoration communists
> were on the side of the Polish Stalinists.
> 
> In fact one of the first measures by the Solidarnosc movement led
> by Lech Walesa coming to power the first time around was to outlaw 
> virtually all abortions. This to appease his employers of Chatholic 
> reaction and the pope. It will be extremely interesting this
> time around what the clerical nationalist Solidarnosc goverment
> has in store for poor and working class people! 
> 
> And it is the Trotskyists of the Spartakusowska Grupa Polski,
> the Polish section of the International Communist League who
> understand that Conciliation to the Catholic Church is the
> kiss of death for class struggle. These comrades have called
> upon workers to take up the struggle against all manifestations of
> capitalist counterrevolution, including anti-Semitism and Anti Roma 
> (Gypsies) racism, as well as the attacks on women's rights
> that this Solidarnosc victory means for poor and working class
> people in Poland yesterday, today and Tomorrow..
> 
> It is either that or Barbari!
> 
> This is Bob Malecki reporting for Straightfacts Radio in Sweden.

	To sum it up, the problem with you, Bob, is that you refuse to
accept the fact that Poles PREFER what you call "medieval institutions'
and reactionary ideology. And by Poles I mean the Polish Working Class who
is anti-abortion on the whole. These are the facts which seem to collide
in a straightforward manner with your views and expectations, Bob. It's
time proper conclusions were finally drawn!

	Leszek Smutek 



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