From: "David Bedggood" <dr.bedggood-AT-auckland.ac.nz>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:56:40 1200+
Subject: M-G: (Fwd) Re: M-TH: The Comintern and Germany 1921


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From:          Self <dbedggood.Academics.Soc.Arts.UAuckland>
To:            marxism-thaxis-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Subject:       Re: M-TH: The Comintern and Germany 1921
Reply-to:      dr.bedggood-AT-auckland.ac.nz
Date:          Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:55:59 1200+

Louis Proyect wrote:
> 
> Bedggood, my understanding of the events of Germany in 1921-23 are based
> on history written by highly regarded Marxist scholars, including Angress.
> I have read everything Trotsky ever read on the German events. Quoting
> from them doesn't tell me anything I don't already know. Do you ever read
> anything except Trotsky? Of course you don't. Trotsky was god and you are
> his prophet. What a waste of time to discuss anything with you.
> 
> Goodbye, Mr. Bolshevik
> 
> Louis Proyect
> 
> ps. When you make your revolution in New Zealand, could you get me a deal
> on some Grade-A lambchops?
> 


Ok I can see that Louis wants out of this discussion. Having "read 
everything Trotsky read" on the subject  I can see that Louis is much 
better read  than I am.  Trouble is he doesnt recognise what he 
doenst understand. He rejects what Trotsky wrote on the 
subject, and of course what was decided in the first Four 
Congresses on  the period, revolutionary strategy and 
tactics. He prefers the marxist "scholars" who trot out the old 
slander that Moscow interfered in the German party and was 
responsible for the failure of the German revolution. 

For Louis Trotsky is OK on some things like explaining fascism, but 
only the theory not the practice. Even on the theory, Louis shows he 
does not understand Trotsky when he claims that that it was the 
Stalinists'  "mistake" that led to Hitlers victory.  Some "mistake", 
this deliberate betrayal of the German and the world's workers for 
the sake of defending "socialism in one country".

Louis problem is that he broke from an already degenerated trotskyism 
the form of the SWP [US] in the 1970's and has moved towards the 
neo-stalinists and mensheviks outside the discipline of any organised 
party.  He justifies this action and his bankrupt politics by 
reference back to Trotsky's break with Lenin in 1924. This is in 
reality a rejection of Lenin and a menshevik  fabrication which 
reflects the demoralisation and disorientation of the isolated petty 
bourgeois intellectual.

Dave.


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