Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:24:54 -0500 From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki) Subject: M-G: We do not fight the Stalinists with Stalinist methods! I have been asked to forward the following to the lists by somebody who obviously does not like Proyect. I can understand the rage behind the action. But as this appears to be the norm on the American Internet left it has to be fought on principle. I oppose the below method of striking back against these Neo Stalinist leftovers. On principle we fight against bringing the class enemy into our struggle to defeat the now defunct Stalinists and their last desperate actions to defend a little part of cyber world turf threw "snitching"...This is exactly the kind of stuff that Proyect has done in order to strike back at his political opponents...And which Jerry has condemned time and again.. Better a group of principled militants went up to Columbia and stuffed his head in a toalet bowl and flushed it then turn to the same tactics the Stalinist use to snitch and set up their political opponents and teach him a well deserved lesson in workers democracy then resort to the same tactics that the Stalinists use of cop/agent baiting and setting up opponents for university administrators.. Warm regards Bob Malecki > I have been reading the Marxism Lists for two years now,and it's clear the lists >have declined.As responsible adults and net citizens it's time we put >an end to this .I have witnessed Louis N.Proyect continue in his endless attacks >and threats,an example is the following->Don't go god dammed looking for trouble >.You'll get it.<snip>you are going to get static from me.Big time static.<This is >nothing more then a threat from an internet thug. > It has come to my attention that Proyect posts from >Columbia University,and that he is employed by them. >How does this great university feel about the threats and attacks sent using it's >internet services?Is this how they wish to be seen,as the domain of internet thugs?Do >they condone these scurrilous attacks and abuse?They should be aware that since Proyect >is employed by Columbia University is liable for any and all legal action relating >to his abuse and attacks. > It would be interesting to see what the press would have to say about Proyects >posts should a selection be made available to them.Then Columbia University could >answer these questions in a public forum. > I will list below address's at Columbia of persons that may be interested in Proyects >threats. > >Columbia University(COLUMBIA-DOM) >Center for Computing Activities >Watson Labs,7th Floor >612 West 115th Street >New York,NY 10025. > >Administrative Contact: >Crosswell,Alan(AC240)alan-AT-columbia.edu >(212)854-3754 > >Technical Contact: >Baran,Fuat C.(FCB2)fuat-AT-columbia.edu >(212)854-4804 > >Zone Contact: >Kaye,Howard(HK19)howie-AT-columbia.edu >(212)854-2874 > >Alternate Contact: >Columbia University Computer Operations >(CU-NOC) net-trouble-AT-columbia.edu >(212)854-2652 > >CUNIXD.CC.COLUMBIA 129.59.35.142 >DNS2.ITD.UMICH.EDU 141.211.83.140 > > So the next time Proyect feels like handing out"big time static",well send copies >to people on the above list and see how this great university responds. No and no again. We fight the Stalinists because of their rotten politics and their criminal organizational manuvers..NOT by doing the very same thing that the writer above suggests which is exactly how the Stalinists see things. They would turn their own mothers in if it meant a place in the sun or a place in the bureaucracy. The above is not principled political stuggle against the Stalinist vermin. But something the Stalinists see as a useful way of intimidating and silencing political opponents.. What they fear most is and open discussion on a public forum where their politics can be exposed. This is why the present antics and revious antics of "snitching" are used by these creeps to silence and gag debate.. As A Trotsklyist and a Communist revolutionary Internationalist I oppose on principle using the same methods as the Stalinists...We do not go to administraters or cops and "snitch" as they do. We do not use bans and exclusions to gag people as they do. Better for the author of these words to take up a principled fight around the bans and exclusions that the Stalinists have been allowed to impose at Jefferson Village then get sucked into their unprincipled manuvers of cop/baiting and snitching and bans and purges.. Warm regards Bob Malecki ------------------------------------------------------- Check Out My HomePage where you can, Read or download the book! Ha Ha Ha McNamara, Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Crystalball! And Now the International Communist League Page! Just push on the "Spartacist" Button. Or Get The Latest Issue of, COCKROACH, a zine for poor and working-class people. NEW! "RADIO TIME" In cooperation with Straitfacts, Bob Malecki will be giving occasional reports to Straitfacts Radio audiences in the United States. Text for these reports now on line. http://www.algonet.se/~malecki ------------------------------------------------------- --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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