File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9710, message 249


Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 00:24:54 -0500
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-G: We do not fight the Stalinists with Stalinist methods!


I have been asked to forward the following to the lists by somebody who 
obviously does not like Proyect. I can understand the rage behind the 
action. But as this appears to be the norm on the American Internet left it 
has to be fought on principle. 

I oppose the below method of striking back against these Neo Stalinist 
leftovers. On principle we fight against bringing the class enemy into our 
struggle to defeat the now defunct Stalinists and their last desperate 
actions to defend a little part of cyber world turf threw "snitching"...This 
is exactly the kind of stuff that Proyect has done in order to strike back 
at his political opponents...And which Jerry has condemned time and again..

Better a group of principled militants went up to Columbia and stuffed his 
head in a toalet bowl and flushed it then turn to the same tactics the 
Stalinist use to snitch and set up their political opponents and teach him a 
well deserved lesson in workers democracy then resort to the same tactics 
that the Stalinists use of cop/agent baiting and setting up opponents for 
university administrators..

Warm regards
Bob Malecki

>   I have been reading the Marxism Lists for two years now,and it's clear 
the lists

>have declined.As responsible adults and net citizens it's time we put

>an end to this .I have witnessed Louis N.Proyect continue in his endless 
attacks

>and threats,an example is the following->Don't go god dammed looking for 
trouble

>.You'll get it.<snip>you are going to get static from me.Big time 
static.<This is

>nothing more then a threat from an internet thug.

>  It has come to my attention that Proyect posts from

>Columbia University,and that he is employed by them.

>How does this great university feel about the threats and attacks sent 
using it's

>internet services?Is this how they wish to be seen,as the domain of 
internet thugs?Do

>they condone these scurrilous attacks and abuse?They should be aware that since
Proyect

>is employed by Columbia University is liable for any and all legal action 
relating

>to his abuse and attacks.

>  It would be interesting to see what the press would have to say about 
Proyects

>posts should a selection be made available to them.Then Columbia University 
could

>answer these questions in a public forum.

>  I will list below address's at Columbia of persons that may be interested 
in Proyects

>threats.

>

>Columbia University(COLUMBIA-DOM)

>Center for Computing Activities

>Watson Labs,7th Floor

>612 West 115th Street

>New York,NY 10025.

>

>Administrative Contact:

>Crosswell,Alan(AC240)alan-AT-columbia.edu

>(212)854-3754

>

>Technical Contact:

>Baran,Fuat C.(FCB2)fuat-AT-columbia.edu

>(212)854-4804

>

>Zone Contact:

>Kaye,Howard(HK19)howie-AT-columbia.edu

>(212)854-2874

>

>Alternate Contact:

>Columbia University Computer Operations

>(CU-NOC) net-trouble-AT-columbia.edu

>(212)854-2652

>

>CUNIXD.CC.COLUMBIA 129.59.35.142

>DNS2.ITD.UMICH.EDU 141.211.83.140

>

> So the next time Proyect feels like handing out"big time static",well send 
copies

>to people on the above list and see how this great university responds.

No and no again. We fight the Stalinists because of their rotten politics 
and their criminal organizational manuvers..NOT by doing the very same thing 
that the writer above suggests which is exactly how the Stalinists see 
things. They would turn their own mothers in if it meant a place in the sun 
or a place in the bureaucracy. 

The above is not principled political stuggle against the Stalinist vermin. 
But something the Stalinists see as a useful way of intimidating and 
silencing political opponents..

What they fear most is and open discussion on a public forum where their 
politics can be exposed. This is why the present antics and revious antics 
of "snitching"
are used by these creeps to silence and gag debate..

As A Trotsklyist and a Communist revolutionary Internationalist I oppose on 
principle using the same methods as the Stalinists...We do not go to 
administraters or cops and "snitch" as they do. We do not use bans and 
exclusions to gag people as they do. 

Better for the author of these words to take up a principled fight around 
the bans and exclusions that the Stalinists have been allowed to impose at 
Jefferson Village
then get sucked into their unprincipled manuvers of cop/baiting and 
snitching and bans and purges..

Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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