Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:49:11 -0400
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-G: URGENT WARNING! WILDER L SAYS YES TO NAZI's!


In two letters today Leon wilson the moderator of the Wilder List has the 
following to say..

>Robert:
>
>
>I have become concerned by many of the recent messages you have posed to
>WILDER-L.  This last message in particular has crossed my line of
>acceptable posts. 

(meaning my earlier "Warning" letter today on the Nazis's)

>
>1. If Nazis or any other group wanted to join this list and discuss race
>   and race relations, they have the rights to do so, as long as they discuss
>   race and race relations in a respectful manner of the other members of
>   this list. 
>
>2. You have responded to several posts in what I consider a condescending
>   manner. 
>
>	Example:
>a)	Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 06:28:30 -0400
>	Subject: [WILDER-L] Reality check #2!
>	Reality Check #2!
>	
>	"Saladin in a very confused manner replies to..."
>
>3. There have been at least four (4) posts that subject content are 
>   questionable and had very little to do with the focus of this list.
>
>Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 01:14:38 -0400
>[WILDER-L] The Goldhagen stuff...
>
>Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 03:50:04 -0400
>Subject: Re: [WILDER-L] ALERT: WHITE SUPREMACIST ORGANIZATION
>
>Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 03:50:16 -0400
>Subject: [WILDER-L] Credentials of a "European Dude"! (part 1)
>
>Subject: [WILDER-L] Credentials of a "European Dude"! (part 2)
>
>Robert, please rethink the type of posts you are making.  I value your
>participation, however WILDER-L is a discussion group about race and race
>relations.  While political discussions and affiliations may be
>appropriate from time to time, this last thread about allowing Nazis in
>this forum is over the line. 
>
>Drop the crusade against the Nazi on the WILDER-L list and focus on race 
>and race relations.
>
>If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to e-mail directly 
><FLWilson-AT-infinet.com>
>
>Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
>
>
>F. Leon Wilson
>WILDER-L List Owner
> 
And.....

>Bob:
>
>I sent this information to the list.
>
>Racist are welcomed on WILDER-L as long as they/anyone is respectful to 
>members of the list.
>
>F. Leon
>

Dear Lists, Usenet,friends and all of my political enemies on the left and 
Subcribers of Cockroach...

In this letter Leon Wilson (moderator of the Wilder-L list) clearly states 
that it was he that sent the conference material from the Nazi organization 
"StormFront"..He also makes it explicitly clear that they are welcome on the 
list.

He also says that these "racists" will be allowed on the list.

In reply I send a letter from Chris F. who gives some background on tese 
Nazis. And the list now will have to choose between letting this Nazi filth 
in here or that Malecki and others will do everything in their power to 
destroy this list. The Nazis got one chance in History and they should not 
be allowed to ever rise again. And it is the duty of any socialist, 
communist or trade unionist to make it explicity clear that this Nazi philth 
has no place on any list or forum. Especially a list which claims;    "The 
World Institute for Learning,  Discussing & Evaluating Race Relations". It 
is like spitting in the face of the millions upon millions who died on the 
battlefields, in concentration camps and the gas chambers. 

The moderator of Wilder L has main it painfully clear that the Nazis are 
welcome on Wilder L. This means war! Now all of you lets can in their and 
let the Internet Community thinks about free speech for Nazis. And 
especially organizations like "Storm Front"!

Here is the background on the Stormfront which the moderater Leon Wilson 
says should be allowed in here to discuss racism..

Bob:


Stormfront is not an innocuous organization. Debating with them is not
"fun," as your correspondent suggests. The guy who initated the Stormfront
site, Don Black, is one of the people arrested and jailed several years
back for stockpiling weapons to take over a Caribbean island and turn it
into an Aryan homeland.

These people also have close ties with the National Alliance, the group
of straight out National Socialists who publish the _Turner Diaries_,
which virtually laid the groundwork for Oklahoma City. If they come onto
a list, I suggest smashing them utterly, mail-bomging them to death, and
not putting up with their shit. They appeal to people who see the world
falling apart around them. In the absence of a coherent left alternative
they'll continue to have their insidious and hateful impact.

Chris

I completely agree with Chris on this manner. And if Mr. Wilson the 
moderator does not withdraw his support to allowing the Nazis in to the 
Wilder list then the list along with the Nazi being allowed in here will 
have to be stopped. 

I hereby call for all democrats, all workers all poor people, all communist 
and Socialist organizations, all trade unions and anybody else that hates 
Nazi's in joining the campaign to force the Wilder L list at the mailing 
address;
<WILDER-L-AT-MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> and the major domo address;
<LISTSERV-AT-MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> the address to subscribe..

to either make a declaration of no platform for Nazis and apologize for 
allowing Storm Front Nazi propaganga advertising a conference in Washinton 
D.C to build a "white" seperatist party in America (of the Arrian model) to 
be made public..

It is either that or we shut it down. Everybody should either subscribe to 
the list and make your voice heard or mailbomb them to death. Because the 
Nazi get no free speech and no rights anywhere on Internet. The Nazis are a 
deadly enemy of poor and working class people. Historically their program is 
the destruction of all poor and working class organizations and the program 
of mass murder of Jews,peoples of color, Gypsies and not in the least trade 
union activists, socialists and communists. They also in America not have 
only blacks on their hit list but Mexican Americans and Puerto Ricans.

This philth must be stopped. I am posting this all over the net and will 
probably be expelled. So it is up to all of YOU to help out here now..Let us 
build a broad united front action to stop the Nazis on Wilder L and if 
neccessary destroy this list and its liberal supporters of "free speech" for 
Nazis..

Stop the Nazis on Internet Now!

Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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