Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:31:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Levy <glevy-AT-pratt.edu>
Subject: M-G: the post that was censored on m-int


Anyone who opposes censorship on m-int is free to forward the following to
that list./Jerry

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 16:20:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Levy <glevy-AT-pratt.edu>
To: marxism-international-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Cc: marxism-international-digest-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Subject: Siddharth the Comic

> From: Siddharth Chatterjee <siddhart-AT-mailbox.syr.edu>
> Louis Proyect, for all his faults and errors (accusing Bob Malecki of
> being an agent of the US govt. without any proof was a big mistake),
> is the one person on this list who contributes serious, well researched,
> and knowledgable posts. This is obvious to any one whether they agree
> with his argument or not. It is the redeeming side of his personality
> in comparison to which his faults and other quirks of character are
> minor and secondary. 

Thank you, Siddharth -- I needed a good laugh. 

What "serious, well researched, and knowledgeable posts"?

Are you referring to the endless reprints from _The New York Times_?
 (which, btw, constitutes spam). 

Or, are you referring to his oft-sent post on Cuba that has up-to-date
  statistics from the *1970's*?

Or, the 4th rate, poorly researched posts on the NEP and Zinoviev?

Or, his childish book reviews?

Or, his *daily* flames against countless listmembers? (that lead to newer
  subscribers discovering and then denouncing anew the scourge of
  Proyectism)

But, here's the real laugh! You say that calling Bob M a government agent
was a "big mistake." Well ... this "mistake" was made repeatedly (and
maliciously) on this and other lists. Was it a "mistake" when he recently
accused Hugh and Dave B of also being agents? Was it a "mistake" when he
threatened to contact Chris B's professional association to get him
expelled? Was it a "mistake" when he threatened to contact Hans E's
employer to get him fired? Was it a "mistake" when he *did* -- by his own
admission -- contact the supervisor (a member of mgt.) of a listmember
(and union member)?  Were all of his sexist comments (like "that time of
the month") also "mistakes"?  Have all of his patronizing attacks against
anyone under 50 also been "mistakes"?  Was it only a "mistake" when he
called all squatters "morons"? Are his national chauvinist comments (like
"Swedish meatballs") also "mistakes"? 

What you call a "mistake" is part of a _p-a-t-t-e-r-n_. The pattern is of
a opportunist who *will say and do anything* in an attempt to discredit
anyone who dares to  challenge his almighty (Menshevik) authority. He is
simply the most unprincipled opportunist that calls himself a "Marxist"
that I have ever met (and that's saying a lot). He is also *THE* reason
why this list can not have serious conversations about *anything*.

I could go on (and on and on and on), but I won't. Since you have defended
him, you have given me more than enough reason to ignore you in the
future. Anyone that thinks so highly of his posts must think that Karl had
a brother named Groucho and Lenin was a "Beatle".

Jerry

PS to Doug: the distinction between productive and unproductive labour is
important because of its relation to the calculation of the rate of
surplus value (s/v) and the rate of profit (s/c+v). Oh,  but I guess that
isn't important to you since the BLS doesn't calculate national income
using Marx's categories.






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