Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:34:56 +0100 (MET) From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens) Subject: Re: M-G: Adolfo Olaechea and Leninlist mimimim wrote, on 3.11, and just some brief comments >[The following is an essay from Peruvian exile Adolfo >Olaechea. MIM comments follow.] > >TWO KINDS OF DICTATORSHIP IN LENINLIST - PROLETARIAN AND BOURGEOIS - >REVOLUTIONARY AND REACTIONARY > >It is convenient to set-out publically the revolutionary position >regarding the events in LeninList, >[MIM3-AT-mim.org replies: Oh, poor, poor Adolfo Olaechea purged >MIM from LeninList in June, 1997 while retaining open Khruschevites >and others best-described as anarchists. Now the swamp has >found him too swampy and it wants a real split based on Cuba! So >now Adolfo Olaechea is purged.] Swamp swamp it was/is. I on my part wasn't allowed in to begin with, since I advocated the line of Marx, Lenin and Mao Zedong. I pointed out the character of that list, as shown by this and other things. > >The aims and principles upon which LeninList was originally founded >clearly implied - and spelled out - the firm revolutionary compromise of a >panel of 6 moderators to uphold the principles of the United Front and to > >[MIM3-AT-mim.org: What a laugh! Adolfo Olaechea means that Maoism >is revisionism. That's why he tossed MIM and kept Khruschevites.] Yes. But mimimim doesn't represent Mao's line either. >It is now an unquestionable fact that of all the moderators who undertook >this solemn revolutionary compromise, only J. Hillier has betrayed it. In Hahaha - as I already said before. That list was a SiberiaSwamp from the start. >>-- >>Jim > >And thus Caesar Hillier "crossed his Rubicon" and went on likewise to >establish a dictatorship in his bogus and illegitimate version of >LeninList. He recruited for this purpose every resentful loser and >opportunist "Triumvir" he could lay his hands on: J. Blaut, K.McKinsey, >Alan Dover. > >[MIM3 replies: Yes, Jim, you made a mistake! Take back Adolfo >Olaechea! Bridges can be built in a day in this year of 1997. >Caeasar didn't have these advantages!] > >People who had not contributed an iota to the original struggle to set up >the LeninList, but who were mere subscribers representing no political >force other than their own base conspirational ambitions and whose >contributions to LeninList itself had consisted basically of a collection >of obscure mumblings designed to throw shadows upon the light of Marxist >understanding. > >[MIM3 replies: So Adolfo Olaechea admits he spent his time >with people casting shawdows on Marxism.] > >What kind of dictatorship is this that Hillier has taken upon himself in >the manner of a Praetorian Guard invested "purpurate Emperor"? > >It is a bourgeois, reactionary and fascistic dictatorship aimed against >the revolutionaries, the proletariat and the people. It is a Khruschevite >style dictatorship of revisionism aimed against Marxism, aimed against >LeninList and geared towards the restoration of the bogus "marxist swamp". > >[MIM3: Sorry Adolfo Olaechea; no one is going to believe your >complaints about Khruschevism now. You tossed MIM in favor of the >Khruschevites in June. You are a little late to make this discovery. >Either way, by not recognizing it or by conciliating with it after you >have understood it, you stand exposed.] Now, mimimim, what did *you* say in March-April-June, when I was banned, on the grounds mentioned above, and was attacking that which you now say is a swamp? Correct reply: Nothing. ....... (A lot of stuff can then be snipped) And now comes the assessment of Olaechea by mimimim: >[MIM3 replies: > Mao >said there was a role for people like Adolfo Olaechea at this >stage of the Peruvian Revolution,... Like hell he did! Mao always *combated* such people, once they had been found out, most implacably. There's no place for such people at any stage in any revolution, only a place for them always in every counter-revolution. > but we must not allow him to >confuse the Maoist ranks.] And not allow the mimimim to do so either. Rolf M. --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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