File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9711, message 47


Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:31:05 +0100 (MET)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Re: M-G: Rolf - no workers organizations in Swededn huh?


>
>Hey Rolf - what about Socialichsten I'm part of the same international as
>they are. What about the Social Democrats? Sure
>ideologically the SDP is bourgeious - but where do most workers vote?  You
>can't solely look at principles and platforms, but at the class composition
>of a party.  If the majority of workers are in the SDP, and if the whole of
>communism is to create a workers state - shouldn't we try to find a voice or
>echo IN THE LABOUR MOVEMENT?  Shouldn't we be a part of and work in the mass
>workers parties?  This way we have access to the workers and can possible
>get a voice - IN THE LABOUR MOVEMENT?  
>
>
>Comradely
>
>Rob

See reply to you and Bob M, Rob.

One must look precisely at principles and platforms - and
at actions too of course, in order to ascertain whether or
not a party represents the interests of the overwhelming
majority of people or not.

One precisely must *not* - as the overiding principle -
look at the class composition of its voters.

Kindergarten stuff for Marxists.

Look up practically any book by Marx, by Lenin, by Mao
Zedong. You'll there see this stated and repeated many
times.

Look at the openly bourgeois bullshitters' writings.
There you'll recognize your own bullshit on this, Rob.

One more time: Trotskyism *is* phony, *is* bourgeois.
All should *break* with it. Study some Marx etc etc
(Not in all cases will that help, I know. But this is
as friendly a way as I can state it.)

Rolf M. 



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