Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 02:15:51 +0100 (MET) From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens) Subject: M-G: UNITE! Info #43en: 6/6 Ola E-son & Ola Echea - eech! UNITE! Info #43en: 6/6 Ola E-son & Ola Echea - eech! [Posted: 19.07.97] [Continued from part 5/6] Ola Eriksson & Ola Echea - eech! (6) [Posted: 16.07.97] This is part of a debate on the Marxism-General mailing list (M-G) managed by the Spoon Collective (see http://jefferson. village.Virginia.EDU/~spoons/), and is also sent to newsgroups. Generals (and you who're not yet on that list too), [See intro text of item (5), part 5/6; I'm not repating it here - RM, 19.07.97] This item (6) thus continues with a long quote - which I don't think there's any need to comment on; I offer the readers: A POSTING BY OLA ERIKSSON TO M-G ON 13.07.97: From: olae-AT-interact.se (Ola Eriksson) To: marxism-general-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU Subject: M-G: Re: Ola Eriksson & Ola Echea - eech! (4) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:34:06 GMT rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens) wrote: Usually I don=B4t read Rolf Martens postings. Now he have slandering against LeninList and me personally in about 20 newsgroups where I=B4m not connected, in about 15 postings, the last two weeks, maybe longer. My internet connection haven=B4t worked the last 3 month. I don=B4t care; no one care about him. No one even read what Rolf Martens is writing. I tried to write a letter to the moderator of the spoon-list, but i noticed that there was no moderator on marxism-general. Not it=B4s time to say something;I guess.. Well, I=B4m not going to start a debate with Rolf Martens, I don=B4t want to make people belive that I am the same kind; only a fool will discuss with a fool. One should not participiate in debates with political maniacs.But anyway I had to say something about this . Yes; i know; it=B4s a stupidity to even answer him.. I hope people who are reading this are going to show Rolf Martens that they don=B4t accept such a behaviour.Propably many readers of this posting allready told him their opinion.. >Ola Eriksson & Ola Echea - eech! (4) >This is part of a debate on the Marxism-General mailing list >(M-G) managed by the Spoon Collective (see http://jefferson. >village.Virginia.EDU/~spoons/), and is also sent to newsgroups. Well, you have now distributed slander about me in about 20 international newsgroups and mailinglists. I have replied some your postings here in swnet.politik, but obviously you want to avoid to be responsible for your slander, and write about my person in newsgrops and mailinglists where i don=B4t participiate. Some of the newsgroups you write in, can=B4t I reech from this server, I hope you are satisfied. >Generals - and other readers too (to whom I once more recommend, >if you're interested in Marxism: get on that mailing list), I also recomend that mailinglist, it=B4s a mailinglist where people like rolf martens are writing. I hope everybody sometime are going to be satisfied with their choice, even pettyborgeous people like Rolf Martens, so he is going to stop slandering us. >Olaechea wants a *fascist* dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, >precisely like the one that existed in the Soviet Union from >the 1960:s on and which was so sharply and so correctly repudia- >ted by Mao Zedong. Some month ago I warned the members of the LeninList about your participiation. I wrote that you don=B4t prefer to call communists "comrade", you usually call them "pig","nazi", "fascist" and so on. I guess Adolfo now is glad that he recieved this information in advance, now he don=B4t need to read your antisocialist point of view inside our LeninList >THE REVEALING ALLIANCE OLA ERIKSSON - OLA ECHEA Rolf; you are a political maniac. This subjectline are typical for your way of thinking. I don=B4t know Adolfo Olachea personally, we even havent replied eech others postings in the LeninList yet. I even havent read LeninList the last 2=BD month.. >That of course is also why, despite the fact that Olaechea tries >to fool people into believing that he's a "Mao Zedong adherent", >in the last weeks so very revealingly has joined forces with the >single "tool" he's been able to find here in Sweden *against me*, >the actual Mao Zedong adherent, namely the ridiculous extreme >propagandist of (former) Soviet social-imperialism, R--k-Ola >Eriksson, Luel=E5. I am not against maoism, nor any other leftist "ism". I am 80% socialist and 100% marxist-Leninst. We are all one community, and have 80% of our opinions as a common belive; trotskyist, maoists, anarchists.. Everybody; exept You ! They expelled you from the maoistorganization in stockholm, they expelled you from the KPML(r); the expelled you from a lot of other organizations because you are *hostile* against socialists. >(On this, see for instance my posting on 01.07, "Titbits from >SiberiaSwamp (1): Olaechea's comrade in Sweden". It contains a >sample of Ola Eriksson's writings, railings against my line, to >be precise, which I promise will give all readers a good laugh.) You havent replied here in swnet.politik, obviously you are slandering in newsgroups I can=B4t reech. >Why, then, does Olaechea so bitterly hate, in particular, me? >I'll get back to that question later. No one Rolf, remember me ; no one hate you! One can not hate shit, or call shit for "fascism". >And GUESS WHO would be among the "AUTOCRATS" ruling that system!! =09 >Would I be totally wrong in presuming that this group, interna- >tionally, would include Ola Eriksson, Sweden, and Ola Echea, >UK?? What do you say, folks? >Only, these silly bastards are dreaming, of course. I don=B4t even understand what you are talking about. You are writing slander about mee, in 20 newsgroups I doesnt=B4t participiate in. This posting for exampe are crossposted in eunet.politics, a newsgroup I cant reech, and also crossposted in the spoon mailinglist, where i don=B4t participiate. As I said before; Rolf you are a political maniac.. >THE INCA (OR SOCIAL-IMPERIALIST) "POST OFFICE" SYSTEM - RUN >BY (OF COURSE) OLA ERIKSSON, OLA ECHEA AND THEIR FRIENDS >(NO, YOU'RE *NOT* ALLOWED TO LAUGH! THE POSTMAN WILL COME >AND GET YOU!) unbelivable.. How glad I am today to show our comrades on our LeninList that i didn=B4t accegerated when i adviced them to not give you acces to our mailinglist. Rof;You are MAD ! >Yes, yes, Ola Echea, we all know that one - you people >of the Chrushchev and Brezhnev type trying to pass off your >actual or only hoped-for *fascist* dictatorship as a >"dictatorship of the proletariat". Rolf I guess you feel proud if I tell you that you are a thru enemy to all socialists, and all socialist organisations. Still I havent got an answer on my question here in swnet. politik. Tell us: 1) Does *anyone* call you "COMRADE" ? 2) Does ANY political party accept you as a member ? 3) Does even the conservative here in swnet.politik call you a communist ? >But so far, the postmen at least have *not* been given >policemen's authority. You don't have to fear being woken >up at 3 o'clock in the morning *by some "postmen"* and >taken away to a concentration camp, such as you would no >doubt be risking, if people like Ola Eriksson and Ola >Echea would somehow be given state power. Rolf Martens wrote 2=BD years ago that he had collected arms at home, he said it=B4s necessary to use them at people like me. >In the (fantasy) state of Ola Eriksson, Ola Echea etc, >people in general would be treated, handled by these >"postmasters", as *letters or packages*. I don=B4t know what you are talking about, I have never discussed ever about any kind of "postmasters" with you. But i guess that all the people reading this understand that this is just a imagination from a sick brain. >Olachea is sceptical about old Pausey, thinking that he and >his small party in Germany might want to "replace" *his*, >Olaechea's "Inca tribe" as (the idiotically but actually >hoped-for) "world leadership", that of the Ola Eriksson - >Ola Echea (etc) revisionist "tribe", a "leadership" which >Olaechea hopes to obtain by proclaiming comrade Gonzalo as >"world Inca cult figure" (poor comrade Gonzalo, he certainly >would not have wanted that!) and portraying that "cult >figure", of course, as one "completely without faults". fragment from a sick brain.. [So far the posting by Ola Eriksson to M-G on 13.07 - it did break off at the point above.] [So far the reposting of this recent 6-part series] UNITE! / VEREINIGT EUCH! / UNISSEZ-VOUS! / =A1UNIOS! / F=D6RENA ER! Info en/de/fr/es/se series: Advocates the political line of Marx, Lenin and Mao Zedong. Each item # will be posted in one or more language(s). Leaflets in the INFORMATIONSBLAD series published by me, mainly in Swedish, since 1975 are available on request. Bef=FCrwortet die politische Linie von Marx, Lenin und Mao Zedong. Jedes Nummer # wird in einer oder mehreren Sprache(n) gesandt werden. Flugbl=E4tter der Reihe INFORMATIONSBLAD, von mir haupts=E4chlich in Schwedisch seit 1975 ver=F6ffentlicht, sind auf Anfrage erhaltlich. Avocate de la ligne politique de Marx, Lénine et Mao Zedong. Chaque numéro # sera envoyé en une ou plusieurs langue(s). Volantes de la série INFORMATIONSBLAD, publiée par moi principalement en suédois depuis 1975, sont accessibles sur demande. Partidaria de la l=EDnea pol=EDtica de Marx, Lenin y Mao Zedong. Cado n=FAmero # sera enviado en una o varias lengua(s). Se pueden conseguir a la demanda volantes de la serie INFORMATIONSBLAD, publicada por me principalmente en sueco desde 1975. F=F6respr=E5kar Marx', Lenins och Mao Zedongs politiska linje. 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