File spoon-archives/marxism-general.archive/marxism-general_1997/marxism-general.9712, message 363


Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 01:40:17 -0500
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-G: Reply to Mark's "them or "us"....


In another letter to the list TandMark-AT-aol.com (Mark Manning, X344686, Puget 
Sound IWW, Seattle) and i assume a hero and follower of the IWW wrote!

>For them to tell us what's in our working class interests! 

in regards to Bob Malecki and the ICL. Well here is Bob Malecki's reply and 
"Cockroaches reply!

Another thing I would like too take up here is morality, and intellectual 
snobbery! There have been many times I have met people in my life 
who because of circumstances have had better education's, better 
morals, better everything, if one were to believe all their bullshit. 
Some of these people have, but  the majority of them were and are 
bullshit artists. You would think that these people would treat people 
like me and my friends at least  as equals.                                  
                                                         
										
But that is never so.                                                        
                                                                             
                      
										
They are always trying to twist and turn our heads in all kinds of 
directions. All the isms, Communism, Capitalism, Fascism were introduced 
to poor and working class people by people who came from  another world. 
These ideologies were introduced into the workers movement and the 
workers and poor people were tricked into walking under one flag or 
the other, usually leading to devastating effects for the worker 
themselves.
											
One thing  these people have in common is that they think that working 
people and poor people have to be enlightened, educated, brought into 
the light, to just some sort of ideology, in order to lead a better 
life. Sort of reminds me of the missionaries who went out into the 
bush in Africa to learn the natives how to be civilised. Or the 
white Europeans who wripped off America from the Indians by making 
deals like, "buying Manhattan for 24 dollars in trinkets" stuff. 
											
	
In reality these people imposed  there lifestyles on the Africans and 
enslaved them. They killed off most of the American Indians and later 
on in history they have been using working class people and the poor 
as meat to be killed off for their latest ideological whim. They are 
so self serving and smart.                                                   
                                   
										
They think that poor and working class people can't think and 
therefore are always trying to stuff more bullshit down our throats!
											
Well many of us certainly can not express our thoughts in terms 
exceptable to these circles. Nor even put forks and knives on the 
right side when setting the table. Yeah, the rich even have rules for 
this kind of stuff...                                                        
                                                                 
										
But we have one thing that they do not understand at all and that 
is historical experience... That is, I mean poor and working class 
people have the experience of suffering from the various ideas 
presently popular in the upper-class circles. We are beginning to 
understand that when these people start pointing their finger at   
the enemy and scream kill, we had better watch our asses, because 
it is usually poor and working class who wind up killing each other.         
                                                                             
                    
										
Everytime in history the rich became convinced of one particular 
theory or another poor and working class people died in the millions. 
During the second world war there was Imperialism, Nazism, feudalism, 
and Stalinism. That little ideological trip cost the poor and working 
class millions and millions of lives.
												
I took up earlier in this book a little Vietnamese girl running down 
a highway in Vietnam with Napalm burning holes in her little body. 
Well that little girl, who was running for her very life had something 
very much in common with myself and my childhood friends. We were and 
are running for our lives just as she was. We were running from the 
enemy. For this little girl the enemy came from the sky, the ideology 
was the domino theory.                                                       
                                                                      
										
Nick was and still is running for his life, he was a smalltime gangster 
and the they was capitalism, i.e. rich people exploiting poor people 
likes Nick's dad   on the docks so that they could drive cadillacs.          
                                                                             
                                                 
										
Eddie was running away too, his experience was how the English were 
and still are trying to colonise Northern Ireland and Eddies relatives 
were trying to stop it by building the I.R.A.                                
                                                                             
                                             
										
Bob was running too...When I was a kid I was running from my stepdad 
Harry. Harry was being destroyed down on the docks by the rich people. 
He was a union man and the rich were trying to destroy the unions. 
The problem with Harry was that he was pointing the gun at his own 
stepkids instead of the fatcats. We were all running from something 
that rich people and there intellectual lackies were trying to push 
off on us.                                                                   
                                                            
										
Our experience is a common one.                                              
                                                                             
                      
										
Our history is a pyramid of skulls!                                          
                                                                             
                      
										
Our skulls!                                                                  
                                                                             
                                      
										
A lot of these people who come from this other world are always trying 
to get us killed in one way or another. Even when I read the letters in 
the foregoing chapter of solidarity with my fight for amnesty I find 
that these letters are permeated with ideological advice which if I 
swallowed would be devastating to poor and working class people like 
myself.                                                                      
                                                
										
For many years now people have been trying to convince me of one or the 
other ideologies. However I have no trust in any of it... Because 
every time I turn around it is the Nick's, the eddies, the Bob's, the 
Indians, the blacks, the little Vietnamese girl who are running for 
there lives. It is pretty easy for these people with there nice cars 
and nice houses         coming down into the streets of New York, or 
into the African jungles, or the Vietnamese country side in order to 
convince us of the latest dominating theory in their circles. But it 
is people like myself who make the pyramid of skulls throughout history.
											
What I am trying to say here is there ain,t nothing these people want 
to give us. In fact most of the rules made up by them in society are 
to protect their interests and not the Nick's or Eddies or the little 
Vietnamese girl who was running for her life.                                
                                                                             
                                                              
										
Take the latest round of death sentences being handed down. 15 and 
16 year old kids who rob a store for twenty dollars and shoot somebody 
in the process. They are to be executed by   the state. When was the 
last time the   state executed a rich person for robbing millions from 
working class people. When was the last time the state executed 
somebody for sending working-class and poor kids off to awar that 
they started with the domino theory.                                         
                                                                  
										
How about the mining company officials on Bougainville today who 
are responsible for a genocidal war against the people on the island 
in order to open the copper mine for there profits.                          
                                                                             
                                                  
										
No the death penalty is not for rich people. The death penalty was 
invented by them in order to keep poor people in line. Remember how 
they screamed the couple of times in history this got turned around. 
The French revolution and the guillotine for the rich by the poeble! 
The Bolsheviks who put the czar against the wall. Christ they are 
still talking about that today.                                              
                                                                         
										
On the other hand what  about all the Vietnamese who were turned 
into dust for the domino theory. Or the 55,000 G.I.s who came back 
in bodybags. Oh yeah, the GI,s got a black stone in Washington D.C. 
(Idealogically that stone is being used to prepare the next generation 
for a new war)                                                               
                                                       
										
In   America nobody ever talks about the millions of Vietnamese 
turned into dust by the bombings.No not at all because the people 
controlling things are only interested  in making rules to put down 
anybody Vietnamese or American who get in the way.
											
NO THE RICH PEOPLE MAKE THE RULES AND THE IDEOLOGIES 
TO KEEP POOR AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE IN PLACE. 
												
So don't come with any moral or ideological judgements of the Nick's 
and Eddie,s or Bob's in this story. These guys are certainly not 
angels. We are at least honest in saying that we were born into a 
system which has never nor will never give us a fucking chance. A 
system which is built up by oppressing the poor and working class 
people.Your nice houses and cars and the rest , yes your standard 
of living is kept up by exploiting people like us everywhere on this 
fucking planet. So don't start telling us how we should try an survive 
a death sentence, from the very day we were born, imposed on us by 
the rich so that you can continue your bourgeois historical domination.      
                                                                             
                                                                               
										
Go fuck your selves.                                                         
                                                                             
                              

I don't like rich people or their lackeys.                                   
                                                                             
                              
										
I will never trust you because, Oh it is so fucking simple!, I don't 
like you because I have been a victim , just as the little Vietnamese 
girl was a victim. We were on the same side. You rich people with 
your nice cars and houses are on the other side. Until the historical 
inequalities built into this system are erased we are deadly enemies! 
So long as there are rich and the poor we are deadly enemies. When 
you talk about black mothers on welfare, or dope addicts, or criminals, 
your talking about people who never had a chance in thisfucking 
society. They are victims just as the little Vietnamese girl was a 
victim.
											
And morals !                                                                 
                                                                             
                      

Nick and eddy and many other poor kids made their livings by selling 
drugs to middle-class kids and rich kids coming in from the suburbs. 
I remember the moral outrage about this stuff. Why there were articles 
in the newspapers everyday about this stuff. Our kids are being 
destroyed and all that shit. I even remember seeing articles about 
middle-class kids running down to the village to buy pot or LSD being 
a fucking communist conspiracy! We thought that it was great to see 
kids from the suburbs come down into our part of town slumming.              
                                                                             
                                                                    
Later on they would protest against the race riots and the war 
in Vietnam. 

Well it was people 

like Nick and Eddie  

Zeke and Clem who got 

these kids to let 

their hair down. 

Let these kids know that their shit stinks just like our shit. The 
Nick's and the eddies got all these kids pointed in a direction which 
led to that the American bourgeoisie suffered the biggest military 
defeat in history in Vietnam. The pot and LSD that the Nick's and 
Eddies were selling to these kids was the motor which made these kids 
drop out a short period of time in history. That drop out saved just 
as many Vietnamese lives as the political organisations did.                 
                                                                             
                                                            

I personally would like to thank the Nick's and the eddies of the world. 
You were small time gangsters trying to survive in a world you never 
understood. But you turned the youth of America on and got them in a 
critical moment of history to turn their backs on their bourgeois 
parents. And to think that those college kids still today think that 
they were solely responsible for helping the Vietnamese win the war!         
                                                                             
                                                                      
										
That is just a crock of bullshit.                                            
                                                                             
                              
										
We were watching you people long before you even became aware of it. 
These kidswere digging music of black people who's forefathers were 
slaves! These kids were buying drugs like pot and LSD from the eddies 
and Nick's of the world and that money was financing the IRA and the 
Cuban Revolutionaries! These kids were buying paintings and lots of 
other shit in the village and that money was feeding workers on the 
picket lines. This stuff was going on before these kids even new what 
race riots were. These kids helped finance the civil rights movement. 
The blacks who were dealing drugs were sending money to Martin Luther 
King: These kids think probably even today think that the struggle 
against inequality started on campus around 1968.                            
                                                                      
										
Well, guess what in 1917 the Bolsheviks had the hookers working in 
the party. The Bolsheviks understood poor and oppressed people in 
1917 and it worked. The point being  that historically there have 
been poor and working class kids that in very specials   skills, 
(sometimes skills which the bourgeoisie consider criminal)  have had 
an enormous effect on the outcome of historical struggles. 

The hookers in the Bolshevik party are one example.                          
                                                                             
              
										
The Nick's and the Eddies of the sixties are another example. So I 
hope the reader of these lines does not raise any bourgeois moral 
arguments or   political arguments which condemn my childhood friends. 
There roll in history at this particular time saved a lot of people's 
lives especially in Vietnam where in 1963 the American bourgeoisie 
decided to take over the roll of the French colonialists after being 
military defeated.                                                           
                                                                             
      
										
These street kids turned on a whole generation. The music came from 
black slaves. the drugs came from Cuban, Mexican and Vietnamese 
peasants. LSD came from Harvard, but peyote came from the Indians.           
                                                                             
                                      
In fact the only thing the rich and middle-class kids had at this time 
was money!, which they usually got rom their parents. 

So no moral crap! O.K. 

By the way. Max this is an answer to your letter dated 21/5/95. 
The same old discussion of the "we,s"----"they" discussion.
												
In ending up this stuff on morals and intellectual snobbery I would 
like to quote the words of a very old and wonderful blackman Willy! 
Willy used to sit on the steps with us kids in the neighbourhood. Willy 
was always there. This very old black man. And I remember to this very 
day the words he often said to  us kids on the hot, humid summer nights 
of New York City. Willie would say:                                          
                                                   
										
"Watchit boy, this nigger ain,t got nothin never from rich whiteman!"        
                                                                             
              
										
Oh Willie, you wonderful old man--how right you were... All these 
years we sat with you on the steps and that was what you were trying 
to hammer into our heads. Willie how fucking right you were.  I think 
Willie deserves a statue right next old Abe Lincoln. Because this man 
new what the bottom line in the fight between the have,s and the has 
not,s as Willie use to put. Willie with those few words new more about 
class struggle then all the fucking liberals alive today.                    
                                   
Hats off to Willie a great black old man! 

Warm regards
Bob Malecki






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