Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:28:00 +0100 (MET)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: M-G: Why are some "absent friends" so absent?


Why are some "absent friends" so absent?
[Posted: 28.12.97]

[I'm sending the below, which went to newsgroups, to M-G
too - one more time. Sorry anout the doubling, but I think
it deserves that extra attention I hope it'll get with the
new subject line above.]

This is part of a debate on the Marxism-General mailing list
(M-G) managed by the Spoon Collective (see http://jefferson.
village.Virginia.EDU/~spoons/), and is also sent to newsgroups.

Or to be more exact, I'm now sending to some newsgroups a pos-
ting I sent earlier today to M-G under subject line "Re: M-G:
A.O. HELL ON WHEELS!".

It's a reply to R.C. Phelan who wrote that, in the present de-
bates, he missed Adolfo Olaechea (of the Sol-Peru Committee,
London, UK) as one "fascinating and outrageous" debater.

In the posting reproduced below, my comments come first (with
some spelling errors corrected here) and a quote from R.C.
Phelan (not his entire posting) after this.


Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 14:32:51 +0100 (MET)
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Subject: Re: M-G: A.O. HELL ON WHEELS!


R.C. Phelan wrote the below, on 27.12.97

And yes, of couse it would be good to have Olaechea back
debating here on M-G and/or on newsgroups too.

And I see that Bob Malecki in one reply to this says, "and
'Quispe' and the 'Detroit milkmaid' (Gina) too".

Yes!

And I on my part could add: And Dr Sendepause & the Klasberries,
my ex-comrades from whom I during some 16 years learned so
enormously much but who in the late 1980s degenerated into
some of the worst crooks you can find - still quite clever,
though, and would absolutely be an asset in many debates.

These people did engage in some debate too, in July-August
of this year, but then stopped. (They yesterday posted some
old - though actually good - stuff from 1992.)

Why are all these "absent friends" absent today, then?


Because they all have been completely exposed as frauds,
phonies, reactionaries, that's why! They're just shitty
scared! They know that when talking, they'll just expose
themselves even more!

Very good (from its point of view) was the advice by Chris
Burford to his close friend and ally (well, he's later shown
himself to be a close friend of *all* those phonies mentioned
above) "Quispe" (approximately):

"If you want there to remain any confidence in you,
you'd better refrain from posting"(!!)

That advice has been taken, more or less, by the others too.

As for Olaechea, Ken Campbell's assessment of him in 1996
was OK then; I had the same assessment of O.A. then. He and
I and some other people (including Ken C. actually, who
made important contributions though he's not such a "political
animal" as are some others of us) were allies in the important
"Quispe" fight in April-June 1996, in which "Quispe" was
completely exposed as a US imperialist agent.

Gina the "milkmaid" supported "Quispe"; there was a split
in the Detcom, Detroit, where she had been earlier, in that
Jay and Tony finally joined the anti-"Quispe" camp on
01.06.1996 and Gina split up from them then. Bob Malecki
btw likewise supported "Quispe" - Trotskyism *is* very
reactionary and in essence a bootlicker of US imperialism
today, even if not all individual Trots see this.

Much later, in the spring/summer of this year, there was
a rather big fight again, this time with much fewer writers
taking part though. It was a triangular fight in which
Olaechea, extremely angry at a correct criticism by Dr
Sendepause of the 1928 founder of the PCP, Mari=E1tegui,
hysterically attacked both Sendepause and me - who supported
that criticism but - above all - since long had been
exposing and attacking that arch-reactionary, CIA, 1984
document (later translated into 20+ languages) the "RIM
Declaration".

In this fight, Olaechea exposed himself totally as
a reactionary.

Later, Dr Sendepause & the Klasberries stepped up their
attacks against me - since I upheld the line of Marx,
Lenin and Mao Zedong - and were publicly exposed one
more time. (My replies on 22.08 were in Infos #49de,
in 11 parts - reproducing my 1990 criticism and exposure
of them in German - and #50en, in 6 parts.)

So, to sum up: These people just *don't dare to show
their ugly faces* any more.

And one uniting factor for them all is:

That big "Operation Subversion" by the CIA that has been
going on internationally for more that 13 years now, that
BIG AIRCRAFT-CARRIER OF SUBVERSION angainst the interna-
tional Marxist-Leninist movement, the "RIM".

The "RIM Declaration", vilely attacking the correct line
of Mao Zedong and stabbing the international proletariat
in the back, this big piece of dirt they ALL support, to
the hilt - or, as in the case of Sendepause etc, still at
least are continuing to cover up - and why? (Incidentially,
the "Mao"Doctors who recenly attacked me on this list
are staunch supporters of that CIA fraud too - despite their
archive's admittedly being quite good.)

Because the *big boss* No. 1 today of *all* camouflaged reac-
tionaries and phony"Marxist" swindlers, that's US imperialism
of course. (There are some [mainly] "pro-Russian-new-tsarist"
phonies too; about them, some other time.]

The above-mentioned "absent friends" one should in reality
call "absent fiends"; I on my part absolutly would welcome
the return of any or of all of them - *but*, as you see,
they all "feel safer" in that respective bunker, or under that
respective stone, where they've taken shelter from the
"pitiless light" of open international discussions.

Rolf M.


(R.C. Phelan:)
>Just couldn't pass this one up.This guy if nothing else is
>FASCINATING and OUTRAGEOUS !!!!! Ranks right up the with
>MALECKI,when it comes to online LEFTISTS with an ATTITUDE,
>and that BITE BACK,NO PUNCHES PULLED,NO QUARTER ASKED NO
>QUARTER GIVEN.PURE UNADULTERATED STRAIGHT AHEAD ASS
>KICKING AGIT PROP,OLD FASHIONED AND HONEST IN ITS MESSAGE
>(AND NO,YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT-I DON'T).Hate him
>or like him,there's no denying he'll soon be an online cult
>icon.A.O.-ONLINE AND HELL BENT!
>
>R.C.Phelan


>>"THE WORLD'S DEADLIEST REVOLUTIONARY FORCE" -- ONLINE
>>by
>>K.K.CAMPBELL

>> April 18 1996 -- eyeNET will feature an irregular series on
>"net.personalties" in 1996 -- people notable for a combination
>>of on-and-offline activity.

>>We open with Adolfo Olaechea, a 52-year-old Peruvian
>>expatriot living in London, England. He has been branded a
>>"traitor to the motherland" by the Peruvian government.
........

[So far my posting to M-G earlier today, including quotes]




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