Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:11:04 -0700 From: David Stevens <phylstevens-AT-worldnet.att.net> Subject: M-G: Spartadooy HUAC Smears and the Logan Evasions > Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:25:00 +0000 > From: David Welch <welch-AT-mcmail.com> > Subject: Re: M-G: WV Smears Militant as HUAC Collaborant -- McCarthyesque "I am Not Now and Never Have Been" > > On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 02:44:36PM -0700, David Stevens wrote: > > WV Smears Socialist Militant as HUAC Collaborant! > > McCarthyesque "I am Not Now and Never Have Been" > It may be in poor taste for those who have suffered under McCarthyite > witch hunts but you are being hysterical. If you object to the > implication of the headline then you should produce evidence of the > contrary not whine about phrasing. If the comrade is ashamed of his/her > past then WV have a right to point that out. This is bizarre. David Welch now seeks to brand comrade "M.L." as being "ashamed of his/her" past. Anyone reading the letter (_WV_ No. 688 10 April. p.3) will note that the comrade is quite forthcoming -- not even for the first time on this issue -- yet it's that very candor the dishonest Sparts twist into a headline having nothing to do with what is said! David Welch calls it "whine about phrasing" when WV invents the words "I am Not Now and Never Have Been" and puts them in the mouth of this militant responding to INACCURATE CHARGES INVENTED BY DISHONEST SPARTS THEMSELVES in _WV_ No. 686, 13 March 1998. Are Spart apologists on the Net always as dishonest as David Welch was here? Yep. Their symps are even worse. People on this list already know Bob Malecki. ;-) On news:alt.politics.socialism.trotsky a Spartacist symp recommended the three-volume set of Spartacist bulletins on the purge of the former head of their Australasian, New Zealand and British national sections, Bill Logan: > In this document, Logan (whose hideous crimes against socialist > morality and basic human decency greatly exceed anything Proyect > has done) is described as a "sexual sociopath" guilty of, among other > things, "inhuman torture of a mother, rendered suicidal in his attempt > to destroy and take away her baby." What was interesting was the part of that story that [spart symp] Holmes DIDN'T tell. It was AFTER all those things were done in the Spartacist League of Australia and New Zealand that Bill Logan was REWARDED by being made the head guru and leader maximo of the Spartacist League of Britain! That's why Holmes only quoted Part III, "The Dishonorable Schoolboy Sent Down"; there is also a Part I and a Part II to this story, showing (in part) how this "schoolboy" graduated from "Spartacist University" with honors. [This, too, is par for the course: Holmes next claimed not to have access to Volumes I or II of the same work he had just recommended that people buy from the SL!]. It was only after Bill Logan was purged as leader of the British section that the Spartacists claimed to "discover" his seven-year long record of sexual abuse and political sociopathy ... in Australia! The predecessor of the Spartacist ICL, the International Spartacist Tendency (iSt) gave Logan all of Australasia and New Zealand as his private playground. Did they expel Logan for "sexual sociopathy"? No, they gave him a second fiefdom in the SL/B (largely constructed through implantation from Canada and other countries). Did SL put Logan on trial for "inhuman torture of a mother, rendered suicidal in his attempt to destroy and take away her baby?" No, that part came years later -- after the woman was rendered suicidal by the Sparts' own admission, after Logan was rewarded with his post at SL/B, and only after he was purged from that for spending more money than James Robertson thought appropriate [see "Volume I" of the Spartacists' anti-Logan alibi series]. The Spart's admitted sexual pathology operation in Australasia and drove one of their own cadre to give up her baby and attempt to commit suicide. The Spartacists' Potemkin International looked at Logan's work in Australia and they pronounced it Good. They put Bill Logan in charge of their operation in Britain to raid the Thornett group and set up a press based on WV reprints. Volume I, p. 37 offers this gem: even after Logan got purged from SL/B over pecuniary stuff, senior Spartadoody leaders were still praising his record of seven years, the same "sexual sociopathy" and "pathological lying" and "inhuman torture of a mother rendered suicidal in his attempt to destroy and take away her baby" which they later had to dance the Sergeant Schultz ["I know nutthink"] upon: "Comrade Logan's long years in principled struggle to defend the party's program in New Zealand and the building of the Australian section together with his willingness to undertake any necessary indicated work elsewhere underlines his fitness (albeit with gaps) to serve as a member of the I.S. of the IEC. -- J. M. Robertson -- George Foster 6 October 1978 Volume I, p. 59, part of a long and "slightly edited transcript of comrade Robertson's report on Britain to the New York local and ensuing discussion, 15 October 1978," confirms that those "gaps" cited by Robertson and Foster didn't include Logan's "party building" spree in Australia, cynically concluding: "You comrades should have read this material. It's been available. A nice endorsement. The only criticism was the parenthesis -- 'albeit with gaps.' Real nice." Later, of course, the Sparts claimed that Evil Genius Bill Logan lied to and manipulated them. Their "International" leadership took a look at what Logan did, and for more than seven years they couldn't tell the difference between _that_ and the Leninist norms of democratic centralism. But don't worry: these are the same people who are gonna teach the rest of us all about the "norms" of Leninist organization and democracy. And these are the hypocrites who libel M.L. as being an ex-member of the ISO; when corrected on point, they resort to slimy McCartyesque baiting of M.L.; and now this David Welch suggests that "M.L." should be ashamed in the current instance. Disgusting. - David Stevens --- from list marxism-general-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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