Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:22:48 +0200 (MET DST)
From: rolf.martens-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Rolf Martens)
Subject: Re: M-G: A flurry of activity!...HIGH JACKS etc


Robert wrote, on 12.05:

>It seems that the latest attempt to hi-jack the M-G list by 
>Rolf away from the Utah alternative...

As all know, *I'm* in no position to "hi-jack" this list or
any other, even if I had wanted to, which I don't.

I'd like a new list, an open one. Obviously, I neither can
nor shall even (ridculously) try to force anybody to sub-
scribe to it (if or when it materializes).

What *is* being perpetrated however, and blithely *accepted*
by Robert, precisely *is* ahi-jacking of M-G. Namely, by
the - controlling - Spooners, represented by Mark J: 1) List
closes to-morrow. 2) New list appears 3) It's moderated!!
4) Though *still* called "M-G" - by the name of that *open*
list! 5) "Almost all" subscribers are "transferred" to it
"automatically"! (Hi-jacked in!) 6) *Some* people will
be *banned* from it instead! (Hi-jacked out!)7) Not the 
slightes mention of who! 8) Not the slightest mention of *why*! 

Look, hello, hi, Robert!!?? Wake up! If you can??! Or should
one perhaps rather say "Hi, Jack!" to him and to his co-jackers?


(Robert, or Jack, further:)
> I also notice he now retracts[!] 
>that he was "proud" to turn in the "Russian" variant of his so called 
>"Social Imperialism" to the Swedish secret police claiming Malecki lies! I 
>suggest that anybody interested in this Maoist has beens latest claim just 
>check the archives of M-G and there you will find the proof of Rolf's love 
>of the swedish secret police and his undying "proudness" in turning in other 
>Stalinist formations to the armed fist of the capitalist state...

Here one can only repeat: Hi, Jack, wake up, if you can, and try
to distinguish between, on the one hand A, and, on the other,
a quite different B - which all who do manage to look into
those M-G archives (now hi-jacked) you recommend them will
see youre mixing up.

To (try to) make it a *little* bit clearer, Jack:

The (ex-)*KGB* and/or *GRU* and their (intelligence) agents 
(however dumb) *are not now* and *were not ever* *any* kind of
"Stalinist formations" whatsoever (Jack's term here, you
others, is supposed to mean: Marxists, or sincere leftists
of some sort, and something *else* than *agency operatives*,
at any rate.)  

Those people who know Robert a little more closely and
thus his sometimes standing firmly planted with his feet
in the blue sky, as far as knowledge of phenomena in this
world is concerned, will not risk being misled by his
above statement. I'm writing this mainly for those of you
who still don't.

Rolf M.




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