Subject: Re: ATTN:Dr. Rosser
From: acaruso-AT-juno.com (Anthony J Caruso)
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:13:28 EDT


Alright.....Let's *not* begin to misconstrue what I have said.....the
term  "gentleman's list" refers to the victorian and immediate
post-victorian period of the worlds history when these terms were
synonymous with conduct befitting "gentlemen," that is, a conduct which
was considered to be somewhat chivalrous.  There is *nothing* wrong with
Chivalry.  If you read up on your Marx, he wrote about how the
bourgeoisie had turned the family into another money-market commodity. 
Chivalry would be acceptable by Marx, I think if it didn't treat women
like they were weak and treated them as equals, as it was meant to be. 
This is the Chivalry I speak of as not being bad.  Men watching out for
women (and vice-versa) is *not* an implication that one sex is weaker or
better than the other.  In fact, caring for your fellow man is the
*Marxist* thing to do.  If not, then what is Socialism good for?  I
believe in Socialism and the working man's rights, but I also believe in
our obligation to give to others what we don't need.  This keeps us out
of the ranks of the bourgeois, which is NOT where I, personally, want to
be.  If you notice, in the posting, I used the phraseology "if you will"
immediately following "gentleman's list," thereby indicating that I was
speaking metaphorically, and not *literally*.  Also...I shall *continue*
using the term "Fraternally," as it has never offended anyone in the
past.  This term does in *no* way limit *your* posting's validity or your
validity as a member of this list.  It is a term which expresses a sense
of --friendship-- and --camaraderie--, not some machoistic, bourgeois
expression of a woman's "subservience."  I am a man, and therefore can
only be in a "fraternity."  This is *logic*, NOT *sexism* If you have
seen any of my past postings, I have also used "Comradely" in my
closings.
     There.  Now, where was I?

Fraternally in Marx,

Anthony J. Caruso
acaruso-AT-juno.com

PS-- In fact, someone remarked earlier "why was it left up to a woman" to
correct me on my "classist" remarks.  I would think that this would
offend you more than anythin that I said.  Please refer to the part of my
*offensive* posting that says "Point?  I am saying that there will be no
direct mudslinging from my end over here."  This statement sums up that
point which was attempted to have been conveyed by the whole posting.  
Ciao.