File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1996/96-11-09.204, message 8


Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 23:59:59 +0000
From: Antonio Mota <antonio_mota-AT-geocities.com>
Subject: Re: M-I: Stanley on science


Doug Henwood wrote:
> 
> At 11:29 PM 11/6/96, Jean-Luc Gautero wrote:
> 
> >I find the same idea in Marx that in your quotation of Aronowitz: natural
> >science is a production of human activity, so you cannot separate strictly
> >natural science from human science.
> 
> Natural science's object of study is nature, which though socially
> constructed ("the image of undistorted nature arises only in distortion, as
> its opposite" - Adorno), has an objective existence apart from human
> beings. Social sciences have as their object of study humans and their
> societies, which don't. Seems to me there's a world of difference.
> 
> Doug
> 
This may be not so. At least since quantum fisics (see Schorendinger's
cat), it is accepted that "there isn't a objective reality independent
of the observer", contrary to the perception of, say, Einstein. Contrary
to his saying "God dosen't play dice", it is know common sense that God
indeed plays dice, and furthermore sometimes he cheats too.

This is so in objectively speaking, not subjectively. In quantum fisics
a particle simply doesen't exist until it is observed. The cat in the
box is only a cloud of probabilities, is neither live nor dead until
someone open the box an look inside it.



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