Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:01:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Louis N Proyect <lnp3-AT-columbia.edu>
Subject: M-I: No more harsh language please


On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Charli wrote:

> OK - I've only been here a week or so. I thought I'd hang around to try to
> pick up the measure of the list. And I find that one of the moderators is
> willing to liken the IS to the KKK or the Nazis, and someone else defends
> him and says "he's allowed a bit of slack because he contributes
> intellectually".
> 

Louis: Charli, why don't you use a last name? Are you working in
semi-clandestine conditions? I understand that the bobbies have been
setting up death-squads in the Brazilian style. Are they after you? We
promise to protect you. I have a cabin in the Catskills where I provide
save haven for Marxist revolutionaries. There's plenty of Chef Boyardee
and Coca-Cola.

> There's a historian - David Irving - who write incredibly intellectually
> about all sorts of pro-fascist things. He is particularly fond of the myth
> of the holocaust. Presumably we let him have his bit of slack as well,
> because of his intellectual contribution.
> 

Louis: Charli, are you comparing the CPer Louis Godena to the
pro-Fascist David Irving? You are setting a very bad example for this
list. Tch-tch. The next thing you know we will have people comparing the
SWP to fascist formations.

> I have big problems with the IS, but all their faults - their idiotic
> posturing about being THE party and there being no other, their refusal to
> take on the trade union leaderships, their unwillingness to work with anyone
> else except on their terms, their opportunistic hijacking of campaigns,
> their claiming of all the credit when others do the work, the way they
> demobilise and drive away new militants from the left - these do not make
> them fascist. 
> 
> I think the remark should be withdrawn.
> 

Louis: I agree with you. The remark should be withdrawn. I serve as
recording secretary for the list and I will take it upon myself to strike
the remark straightaway. I will also withdraw my own comment that Louis
Godena is entitled to an intemperate opinion.  Anybody else who has
remarks that they object to should contact me right away. We will make
this list so pristine that Jerry Levy might even be tempted to return.



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