Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:00:56 +0000 From: Joćo Paulo Monteiro <jpmonteiro-AT-mail.telepac.pt> Subject: Re: M-I: Re: What Will Socialism Look Like Dear Rob Schaap: You wrote: > > Okay, let's be conscious marxists then. For this is surely the most > difficult intellectual challenge we face. What is it we want? This > question becomes all the more salient when you start seeing posts about > guns and people evincing the desire to use them. > I'm not a blood-thirsty monster (like the blond long-haired one you have there), with 3 shotguns on my closet and a parabellum on hand, always clean and shining. Not really. I am a quiet, nice looking, lower middle class young man with an intellectual appearence. I'm sure you could present me to your mother. You won't find police posters with my face on them. In fact (I was trying to delay this confession), I've never put my hands in a gun before and chances are that I'll end up never doing it in my entire life. But, you see, I am a revolutionary. I have not always been one, but I am now, for quite some time. I know that we will, inevitably, at some point, face a major turning point in history and we can never break through if we don't apply our shoulders decidedly on that door. The bourgeoisie will have to be kicked out to make room for workers' power. It may be tougher in same places than others, but, generally, believe me, they're not going to like it. We'll have a revolution. You have said here that you are a kautskyite (that's not common these days) and, for now, might be betting on market socialism. Fine. We can still be friends. But when time comes you will have to face tougher choices. That's when we'll find out if you're a "conscious marxist" or not. If, by then, you'll keep on being a reformist you will find yourself in the other camp. You see, I'm trying to find ways of not having to shoot you right now. Of all the sectarian babble that Bedggood and Malecki have pushed through here about "menshevism", there is only one thing that makes sense. We're gonna have to jump. Either you're coming or staying. A line will be drawned and you won't be able to say you can't see it. You don't have to choose right now. But you will see clearer if are aware that this is so. and, > In short, given that the end of capitalism might entail a protracted > violent episode - how do we ensure that the militant elite (for wars create > these without exception) do not become the next ruling class? Where are > the 'checks and balances' that'll be so necessary in a time of such > fundamental transition? > Oh, come on now. The question is not if the assault will demand some militaristic ranking and shouting, but if the forces of production are mature enough and require a socialised apropriation. That's what has always missed so far and will shape the future society with an egalitarian and freedom loving outlook. Cordial salutes, Jo=E3o Paulo Monteiro --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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