Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:22:10 +0000 From: manotas-AT-zedat.fu-berlin.de (Anna-Sabine Ernst * Gerwin Klinger) Subject: M-I: Re: R Pearson: Das Argument (and underpants). >From: "R Pearson" <spectres-AT-innotts.co.uk> >Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:23:39 -0000 >Subject: M-I: Re: Das Argument (and underpants). > >Thanks for the comments on Das Argument from Chris and Anna-Sabine. >I only know WF Haug from his work on 'Commodity Aesthetics', and I left the >work somewhat puzzled. On the one hand he has some very keen analyses of >commodification and creates a stimulating engagement with the issues from >both a philosophical and a political level. >For example Haug cites this quote from Das Argument: > >"The masses are being manipulated while pursuing their interests. >Manipulative phenomena, therefore, still speak the language of real needs >even if it is as it were an alien expression of those needs which are now >distorted beyond recognition." >"The objective realities of happiness and unhappiness form the basis of >manipulation" [from Das Argument 5 1963] > >All good stuff, nicely thought-provoking and neatly contraversial. But what >puzzles me is his comments on men washing and printed underpants! Haug >seems to think that frequent bathing and such follies as a pair of >underpants with a print on the front (and thus no fly hole) are baleful >influences on the working class. >What I'd like to know is where the hell is he arguing from and whether his >comments in defence of East Germany are indicative? > >Russell Pearson Just a short comment: Critic of 'Commodity Aesthetics' is a serious question. The problem of "selling commodies" produces overwhelming efforts to interfere in the sensibility of the potential consuments by aesthetizing the boy of the commodies. What we like or unlike is formed here. We can speak of alienation. Critic of "commody aesthetics" wants to re-approriate this competences. Haugs comments in defence of East Germany are indicative - as fare as I see. A hint to this question: In 1980 a "Socialstic Conference" took place in Kassel. Main question was to clear the position of the left organisations, sects and groups to the Green Party, which just was founding. The GP declared to be an alternativ power: critic of industrialisation in west and east, the GP was critical to the capitalistic system, but it wasn't under control of the CPSU or SED. So there were a lot of sceptism in the traditional old-left in the enviroment of DKP and SEW (German Communist Parties). The question of decision to clear the position of the lefts to the GP was, wether they would critic the Nuclear-Power-Plants in the socialist country or not. Haug conference-statement evaded this question: For him nuclaer power plants are only an exampel for a more general problem. And than he spoke of the ecological effects of commody aesthetics, which is also commodie-chemistry. - All clear? Gerwin Klinger --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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