File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/97-01-05.184, message 38


Subject: M-I: Haikus and Racism
From: anthonycaruso-AT-juno.com (Anthony J Caruso)
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 02:28:47 EST


>Tony! who claimed he was going to "play the devils advocate" on Ebonics
in 
>his first letter has gone from devils advocate to attacking Ebonics as 
>"inferior", "reverse racism" and spokeman for ghetto people in how to
get a 
>better job.

Bob!  What the hell is *this* load of *bullshit*?!  You really had to be
hopped up on some good shit to come up with this stuff.  I mean, c'mon. 
You have much more sense than this.  (<=disapproving look=>)

>Since when is black racism  just as bad as white rascism?

Since we all crawled out of the primordial stew or whatever the hell it
was.  That's since when.  All cleared up?  **Thanks to Justin for
pointing this issue out and putting it to rest**  

>...interested in the ways in which discussion of it seems to bring out
>(or not bring out) certain actual or potential succumbings to liberal
>racism (which seems to be the case both with Tony and TimWetc).

Oh yes, of course.  Thank you, O Great and Mighty Dr. Diety Cox, to whose
"infinite wisdom" we should all look to in these times of not being able
to think for ourselves.  You know, Comrade, you seem to have a real
underlying problem with people, a sort of "social ineptness" if you will.
 (I'm sure, for arguments sake, you WON'T.)

>One point is, I believe, certain: there is no such thing as an
"inferior" dialect or >language, nor is there any dialect or language in
any way superior or inferior to any >other dialect or language in its
capability of expressing (or thinking in) abstractions.

SEE, THAT'S THE THING...NOBODY (and I challenge you to prove otherwise)
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS SAID EBONICS WAS "INFERIOR."  I ORIGINALLY POSED THE
QUESTION OF ITS DIVIDING THE RACES BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT ANY FURTHER
RACE DIVISION MIGHT DEFEAT THE PURPOSES OF MARXISM.  I WASN'T SURE AND I
WANTED FEEDBACK, BUT YOU, INSIST ON PICKING APART MY WORDS AND TWISTED
THEM UP.  I REST MY CASE.  THANK YOU, DEAR CARROL, FOR OBSTRUCTING MY
LEARNING ONCE AGAIN.  GOOD DAY SIR!!

--pause for effect--

>So the real sick logic of this is clear: blacks genetically
inferior=>hardwired to speak >a less sophisticated Ebonic language
(though as I noted many kids speak in the >same damn way)=>black kids
can't therefore understand complicated sentences >and algebra=>black kids
fail at a high rate and must therefore be removed from >integrated
classes so as not to bring the rest of the student body down=>first
>separate Ebonics classes, probably to be supervised by incompetent
Afrocentrics >(has anyone ever heard the melanin queen Frances Cress
Welsing for whose >evening lecture there was a *massive* turnout when I
was teaching) and Muslims, >and then separate high tech Indian
reservations for the black underclass, as >recommended by Murray and
Herrnstein and to be supervised by the thugs from the >Nation of Islam.

WHOA...stop the train.  Where do you people come up with this?  Is it
something in your water supply or something?  The one thing that some
people here (myself included at times) have shown to me is the total lack
of **common sense**  People like Louis G. and Lou P. and others have been
strictly intellectual and adult about it all and have put up with it, but
yet I repeatedly succumb to this malady and get caught up in and start
stuff like this Ebonics debate.  I thought we could all handle this like
adults and Marxists, but yet I and others have proven to myself that this
is not possible.  We bicker like children and call names.  Well, you
people CAN'T BREAK ME.  I'm sorry, but if you want to continue arguing,
you'll have to pay for another 5 minutes!!  I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!!

--smile to self quietly--

And, finally, just so's not to disappoint y'all, here's a little
**haiku!!**

"Bunnies"
By Anthony J. Caruso

Cute fuzzy bunnies
Attack a mean old lady
See the bunnies hop

Take Care everyone, believe it or not, I think you're all the "cat's
pajamas," the "bee's knees," and all that jazz.  

Anthony J. Caruso
e-mail:
AnthonyCaruso-AT-juno.com
au847-AT-detroit.freenet.org


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