File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/97-01-11.141, message 54


Date: 	Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:35:03 -1000
From: Stephen E Philion <philion-AT-hawaii.edu>
Subject: Re: M-I: Draper, Engels and Sects


Draper's books are published by Monthly Review Press (NYC).  They probably
have a toll free 800 # or you can email them for more info.  Idon't have
the email address handy, but I can check later for you.

Steve

On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Rob Schaap wrote:

> Many thanks to Stephen Philion for quoting Hal Draper:  
> 
> 'Marx implemented a basically different conception of
> the relation to trade unions (from the sects).  Socialists should act as a
> loyal left wing of the class movement, not an alternative counterposed to
> it; they should start with the working class as it is and where it is in
> order to change it; they should become the best militants for the limited
> aims of the movement-as-is...at the same time, through this association,
> they seek to push the whole movement upward to higher levels of class
> struggle commitment and consciousness by means of the lessons of
> experience, all without giving up or hushing their own full views or
> ceasing to criticise mistaken or ineffective polices.'
> 
> [This I LOVE!  Pardon my ignorance, but who's Hal Draper and where's the
> best place to start reading him?  And I gotta admit, I had fallen prey to a
> widespread marginalisation of Engels (in my experience anyway), but this
> list has fixed that.  I never knew how much he'd written - and how well
> worth reading it was!]
> 
> Rob. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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