Date: 11 Jan 97 15:24:31 EST
From: jonathan flanders <72763.2240-AT-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: M-I: Mensheviking


 >> In fact your position which i assume is a position (not as a 
moderater of this list) is in fact the position of trying to make this 
list one big happy family of "comrades". 
 Well, the question of the leadership of the Proletariat Internationally 
is not a question of being nice guys and girls. It is a serious and 
deadly discussion who,s outcome will determine the victory or the defeat 
of the Proletariat. When it comes to concrete stuggles i think that the 
lists 
 should act in solidarity in support of those struggles. 
 (Korea, Turkey, the U.S. whatever) but to join the campaign going on by 
the Mensheviks and Neo-Stalinists on this list to stop calling them by 
the names of the politics that they represent in the real world is just 
ridiculous. This discussion must be brutal and with no holds barred here 
on the lists. <<Robert M


Jon Flanders:

  I don't expect that we are all going to be a big happy family. Far from
it. But I think that the approach that you advocate is static and takes 
little account of how people might be won over to another view.

  I also don't expect to be able to change fundamentally your or Lou P's 
style of argument. But since I am a moderator at the moment I will 
occasionally try to steer things towards a more comradely atmosphere if I
can.

  Despite my friendship with Lou P, for example, I have biffed him 
publicly in the past for some of his excesses. I will again if I have to.
Otherwise, what use is a moderated list? 



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