File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/97-01-21.060, message 58


Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:03:28 +0100 (MET)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: M-I: The fortune-cookie farewells of Rob Schaap


Charlie writes;
>        I wasn't going to dignify Louis G's ramblings with a reply, but
>there is one flat-out lie in there that needs nailing. The Socialist Review
>Group (as it was then) *never* supported the American war in Korea. What
>they argued (and we stand by it today) was that the war was one between two
>rival puppet armies backed by the two main imperialist powers - the USA and
>the USSR - and that socialists should support neither side. It was not a
>war of national liberation - unlike the war in Vietnam. It was - and is - a
>controversial position on the left, but discussion about it isn't helped by
>lying.
>        Incidentally, "West of the Riviera"? is this an arcane American
>insult I'm not familiar with, or a misunderstanding of European geography?
>

I agree Chartlie! Godena should not lie about your position even if it is 
hair raising!
I was always under the assumption that the Korean war was between the 
Americans and Koreans mainly backed up by the Chinese red army and not the 
Russians. Naturally Trotskyists were for the military victory of the Koreans 
and Chinese over the Americans despite the Stalinists. Your no side position 
is in fact and abstention from class struggle!

And your methodology of the state caps or Maoists appears to oversee the 
fact that the so called liberation war by the Vietnamese was quite heavily 
backed by the Soviet Union and the Chinese although no ground troops like in 
the Korean theater.
And that the Vietnamese were and are just as much Stalinist as either the 
russians or the Chinese and historically have a lot of blood on their hands. 

However your position is reactionary in that you say a plague on both your 
houses when it comes to the cookie jar. 

Warm Regards
Bob Malecki

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