From: Zeynep Tufekcioglu <zeynept-AT-turk.net> Subject: M-I: "Third-world" Stalinism Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 00:54:47 +0200 I think there is something important that many first-world anti-Stalinists do not understand. For the record, I'm no fan of Stalin himself, although I must admit that I can visualize how such a regime came to power in a place like Russia, and also think if it wasn't Stalin himself, there'd be many others to lead the country in such a manner. So, not a personality issue. The problem is multi-dimensional. 1) Nobody here thinks what most people in the west think regarding what *really* happened during Stalin era. The same bourgeois press that tells them that their lives are improving, that child-labour does not exist, that no official case of cholera was recorded in the past year, that we are a democracy, that there are no Kurds (only mountain Turks) are telling them that Stalin was a terrible, terrible dictator. Wanna guess what the inference is? 2) Your workmate lost a hand today, your children are constantly underfed, in fact, you've lost a small one to a disease that was easily curable, the boss shouted that you were a stupid worm and half days wage would be cut for being ten minutes late. Someone tells you that Stalin killed the bosses and made sure everybody had a job. That's more or less all you know. Does it sound too bad? I personally think the more blood a revolution has on its hands, the less likely it is to survive. This is not just humane instinct, it is very hard to build a new world after a bloodbath (even if it can be understood and even even justified on the argument that otherwise capitalism's more murderous regime would continue). For the working class to support this, they'd need a different kind of consciousness and involvement in the revolution. Neither condemnation (nor flattery) of something that is so far away from their immediate concerns will bring this about. 3) The working class in most of the third world is trained and raised to be servile, unquestioning before authority, not-thinking, not-evaluating. That's one of the main causes that many revolutionary organisations completely lack internal democracy. While one may say that they theorise such non-democratic structure, I agree that the process is, ahem, dialectical and the cause-to-effect starts from the fact that there really is not too much demand for democracy. In fact, just trying to force democracy often backfires. You can't expect people to start expressing themselves one hour after they've contacted revolutionaries after they've spent a lifetime of being trained and threatened and punished not to express themselves. That would be an interesting issue to discuss, and I think much more fruitful than "Stalin was good, was not, was too". Now, I'd really pause a long time before passing judgement on say the Shining Path, the PKK, the IRA, or any other such movement without really understanding what's going on in that country, and how the people perceive their own organisation, their own past, the US, the Soviet Union. Just the fact alone that the Soviets were the enemy of the US was a cause in many third world countries to think that Soviet Union must be very very good. We can be critical of the Shining Path from where we stand, but that movement has the hearts and minds of many Peruvian peasants and workers as an organisation fighting the Fujimori regime. Since the ascension of the PKK, Kurds are no longer "Mountain Turks". Just as it would be incorrect to say squatters don't deserve our support because so many of them are in the informal economy or in the reserve proletariat, it is equally ignorant to condemn any movement in the third-world because of its views regarding the Soviet Union. There are too many decent, fighting organisations and people in the world that have views on Stalin that would be unacceptable to many first-world revolutionaries. As far as I know, there are really no movements left in the first-world left count and that are pro-Stalin. Is there any big (well, sizable) first world movement that I don't know of, in this regard? That's why, this striving-to-be-international list, should not shut out any movement, and should not continue sterile debates, and definitely not provoke such debates. If the aim is to sincerely help revolutionaries from many countries talk, discuss and hopefully, one day, act together, such provacation and/or repetition serves no one. By the way, if anybody wants to draw up a list of Stalin FAQ and put their answers to it, and perhaps if everyone interested does it, I promise to make it known on our info sheet for new subscribers that such a FAQ is available. That way, anybody really interested in anyone's views about Stalin can learn them. The FAQs should not be too long. And, we'll be spared the repetition. Zeynep --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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