From: "Rosser Jr, John Barkley" <rosserjb-AT-jmu.edu> Subject: M-I: Adolfo Olaechea Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:46:35 -0500 () Unless he responds to me directly and personally, this will be my last posting on this topic, as I agree with the general sentiment that we should move and not get bogged down in leftover detritus and flame wars from the M1 list. As I said before, I only got into this now because of the death threats that seem to reveal much about Adolfo. 1) I have been informed offlist that there is independent support for Adolfo's claims regarding a large fine having been assessed of him by the Peruvian government. Good enough for me, and this certainly can go a long way toward explaining, if not necessarily justifying, some of Adolfo's attitudes and behavior. 2) It is of little import what Adolfo did or did not do in the early 60s. He made a big deal once about founding a "soviet." I'm sure he and some of his buddies did start something they called a "soviet." Others contend that this amounted to a big zero (kind of like the WMC). But, I don't think any of us have any way of determining this one way or another and for the current disuputes it is of little import. 3) There remains no independent evidence that Adolfo is an official spokesperson of the PCP. Perhaps it is impossible for that to be proven one way or the other, given the secretive nature of the organization. But his repeated assertions that he is the supreme and true voice of the PCP in exile in and of itself proves nothing, especially when such assertions coincide with ridiculous charges and claims. 4) This glorious declaration from the Sol Peru Committee London (Adolfo) via detcom-Jay (isn't he still suspended? even though I disaprove of that, what the heck) carries on about how even groups that claim to oppose the peace negotiations, such as Avakian's group and the MPP and the Quispe crowd, are all obviously dumb tools of the Fujimori regime and actually crypto supporters of the allegedly phony peace negotiations, is exactly what I expected and forecast from Adolfo and is the prime example of why the guy has a serious credibility problem, at least in my eyes. This was exactly what I forecast, a wide-ranging denunciation of all sorts of groups and people, myself included, as being part of a grand Fujimori conspiracy. Is this or is this not paranoia, even if Adolfo does have real enemies? The only evidence presented of any of these groups or people either being Fujimori agents or advocates of the peace negotiations is that they are viewed as critical of El Diario Internacional, and hence by extension of Adolfo's claim to be the One True Voice Of Revolutionary Gonzalo Thought In The World Today. Wow. I think a very revealing aspect of this is something that Adolfo sent to the old M1 list about the Avakianists. He set up a meeting at his favorite club of loyal personal sycophants, the Stalin Society in London. A nameless representative of the Avakianist CO-RIM was invited to "debate" with Adolfo. The debate amounted to Adolfo engaging in the sort of name-calling and assertions without support that we just saw in this glorious Sol Peru Committee declaration. The CO-RIM rep denied all this, but was not allowed to speak at any length or to provide any in-depth response, at least if he did, Adolfo did not reproduce it for our perusal in his post. The rep was essentially shouted down in good Stalinist fashion by the assembled flunkies. The Avakianist rep argued that they oppose the peace negotiations, but the All-Knowing Adolfo Knew Better. More Wow. I am fully prepared to discuss this a bit more when/if Adolfo returns, although we should cut it short. I would prefer to move on to more substantive discussions of issues. I, for one, found his discussion of the Peruvian situation at Liverpool to be very informative, even if I have poked at part of it in another post. Aside to Louis Godena, if that Sol Peru Committee declaration is your idea of something that makes me freeze in my lower extremities, well, excuse me while I have a good laugh, :-). Barkley Rosser -- Rosser Jr, John Barkley rosserjb-AT-jmu.edu --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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