From: blunose-AT-interserv.com
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:34:47 -0800
Subject: M-I: RE: For a List of Marxist Re-affirmation


From: "James Hillier" <Jim_Hillier-AT-msn.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 22:10:37 UT
Subject: M-I: RE: For a List of Marxist Re-affirmation
But I reiterate my fundamental point: 
if the marxism-international list does not function as a 
forum in which marxists, from different geographical and 
ideological backgrounds, can debate and criticise eachother 
constructively, then it is a waste of time.

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From: Richard Bos <Richard.Bos-AT-hagcott.meganet.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:34:12 +0000
Subject: Re: M-I: Hugie Liar
The constant provocations and abuse are not part of comradely 
debate. It is the duty of the moderators of this list to put 
a stop to it. Zeynep is being critisised, not because anyone 
thinks of her as an enemy, but because she is wrong in the 
way she is acting on this issue. I must stress that I do 
*not* see her as an enemy.


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Me:
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Richard & Jim;
Have you guys been reading the same exchanges between 
Zeynep and Adolfo as I have? Have you followed both 
their contributions since they arrived (Adolfo slightly 
before Zeynep) on M1?

Clearly the only one trying to narrow the political line 
and limit discussion on this list is Adolfo. Moreover, 
to put Zeynep into the Trotskyist camp is hi-larious.

Richard, since you arrived, you have been an inspiration to 
me. I look forward to reading your contributions and 
learning from you. But your victim-talk of the reds being 
baited - in the face of Adolfo's cruel anti-woman diatribe 
was ironic at best. I empathize with your anger so I don't 
mean to take you to task for it. 

I find Zeynep an exceptional thinker. I admire her courage 
and intelligence. She is a hero and a role model for me. 
In my darkest moments of alone-ness in this capitalist sea, 
I think of people like Zeynep and others on this list. 
Their courage touches so many.

I hope some people will pull back and put the "suspensions" 
in perspective.(No-one was banned!) They were suspended only; 
for 2 weeks only. To be suspended from one email list should 
hardly hamper the revolutionary work of these individuals. 
They could continue to follow the list and write articles. 

I hope you won't let the growing pains of this wonderful 
list distort your view of Zeynep and her politics.

I had prepared to post some thoughts very similar to your 
own, which were intended to contradict what I saw as Adolfo's 
very limiting vision of this list. Then I read your comments.
Now, I'm just confused.

Sorry to add to the static, but I did want to say a word in 
support of Zeynep.

Gay Harley
Toronto, Canada





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