File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/97-03-16.132, message 59


From: detcom-AT-sprynet.com
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:05:02 -0800
Subject: Re: M-I: You're dead meat



On Sat, 15 Mar 1997, UticaRose-AT-aol.com wrote:
>If this is accurate, this is not juvenile and not principled struggle. this
>is the language of the jungle. there are newsgroups which permit and
>encourage posters to engage in this type of hatespeak. i hope that this list
>can develop some way of stopping the personal ego tripping. if not, then,
>meet the new boss -- same as the old boss.


First of all, the post you are referring to was not posted to this
list.  It was some of Levy's PRIVATE fan mail he posted to the list
in violation of the rules of the list regarding the posting of private
email.  Even those ineffective guidelines are worthless and of no use
whatsoever, the personal comfort of the moderator being the
thing of most importance.  They are comfortable with this list being 
the toilet of counter-revolutionaries like yourself and Levy, and
unwilling to do what is necessary like kicking you chumps out on your
ass, so you better get used to the smell of your own shit, and quit
pretending like you care even two cents worth about the quality of the
goddam language or any  so-called threats.

This M-I list is made up of mostly serious persons that want to make
a change in the world for the better, not just play games, probably
95% of members are like that.  It is regretable that the list is
constantly disintegrating and going to ruin again and again and we
have to put up with it as such, according to the moderator.  The
present "stability" is only illusionary, this list is just M1 with
a three post limit (and even that is often disregarded), and to try
and have a cyberseminar on any other subject but the structure of 
what a marxist list should be like is just anti-marxist and ignoring
the problem.

Some of the list members have gone ahead and devised a new list,
and I would like to invite the honest comrades of the rotten M-I
list to subscribe to it so that a decent discussion of the world
situation and the way forward may be had.  Here is the info again:

A CALL FOR GENUINE REVOLUTIONARIES AND PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE TO SUBSCRIBE TO A
LIST OF MARXIST RE-AFFIRMATION: LeninList-AT-aol.com

The undersigned invite applications from among the members of this list to
join us on a list of genuine and principled unity geared to the
re-affirmation and development of Marxism in accordance with the needs of
the present historical era, and dedicated to uncompromising combat against
bourgeois imperialist ideology within the ranks of the Left, and to drive -
and keep away - from all legitimate Marxist forums and the movement at
large, the agent provocateurs and the zubatovist agencies of our class enemies.

The first theme we shall be debating in this list is the following:

"The present international situation and the need to unite the genuine
proletarian, revolutionary, democratic, and progressive forces in the world
today, in an effective all out struggle against the developing wave of
imperialist counter-revolution".

In order to subscribe, send a mailer to the moderator,
Marxism-Re-Affirmation List, at the following E-Mail address: -
LeninList-AT-aol.com - requesting your immediate subscription.

Known Zubatovists, agent provocateurs, and professional denigrators of the
proletariat, communism, and socialist and democratic revolution need not
apply. All genuinely progressive people need not fear discrimination on
account of any genuine discrepancies.

These are the only rules.

The LeninList-AT-aol.com Moderators Commission:

Jim Hillier (Communist Action Group - UK)
Mark Jones (UK)
Jay Miles (Peru Solidarity Committee - Detroit - USA)
Jacques Badouin (Action Socialiste - Canada)
Adolfo Olaechea (Sol Peru Committee - London - UK)
================================================================
Jay Miles / Detroit




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