File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/97-03-22.073, message 18


From: UticaRose-AT-aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:11:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: M-I: Zubatov and the lists


In a message dated 97-03-17 18:07:56 EST, rosserjb-AT-jmu.edu (Rosser Jr, John
Barkley) writes:

<<      Hot stuff, I found out who Zubatov was.

as if you didnt know, you marxite-zubatovist hyper-agent hound !

<< He was 
 the tsarist police chief (and a cossack) who ordered 
 the firing on the protesters in "Bloody Sunday" in St. 
 Petersburg in Russia in 1905.  

there you have it, you leninite-rosserist boot-licking lackey. as if there
wasnt a real Bloody Sunday, you put it in "quotes." you silently betray your
class origins, your native instincts and your true calling !!

<<So, take that! all you 
 unconscious Zubatovists! clearly a plague on this list.

<< no, you marxite-leninite-minimalist !!! misleading the workers yet again.
the plague be on you for acting as if any zubatovist could act unconsciously.
it is well known that it is imposible for a zubatovist to act without being
deeply conscious of their evil-ness. you are obviously no more than a
second-rate lovestone-ite or hand-me-down browderite swindler !!!! no more
than a counterfeit fosterite, no more than a fake hallist !!!!! just more of
your false prevaracating.

<<       Speaking of this list, I think that this is 
 where the action is going to be.  Proposals for people 
 to run off to various other closed lists of one sort 
 or another are just fine and dandy, but most of them 
 will end up like left-unity, marxism-thaxis, and 
 various other boring "low volume" lists where there is 
 no real confrontation of ideas, or which are 
 completely dead.

there you go you pseudo-bukharinite wrecker, you proto-zinovievite strike
breaker. more talk of death. the so-called closed lists are alive, reviving,
surviving, arriving and thoroughly anti-depriving. this is well known to any
class conscious nine year old. your attempts to speak as if this were not the
truth are pathetic, self-discrediting and leave you naked before all class
conscious workers as the GENUINE zubatovist you merely aspire to be.

<<      Let us hope that the discussion on this list can 
 remain at least somewhat above the flame level at 
 least some of the time.  But, an open list with 
 serious discussion is going to have serious 
 disagreements.
  >>

LONG LIVE THE LIVERS ! LONG LIVE THE LONG LIVERS !! DEATH TO THE DEAD !!!
TWILIGHT FOR THE REST !!!! 

FOR A CLOSED LIST ! FOR A REALLY SMALL CLOSED LIST !! FOR A REALLY SMALL,
CHEERLESS CLOSED LIST !!! FOR A REALLY SMALL, CHEERLESS CLOSED LIST DEDICATED
TO OUR FAVORITE LIVING YET DEAD MAXIMUM LEADERS !!!!

FOR STALIN-MAO-DUNG THOUGHT. ALIVE, YET DEAD. SMALL, YET CHEERLESS. CLOSED,
YET MAXIMUM. FOR ALL THAT IS GOOD AND FOR NOTHING THAT IS BAD.TWO LEGS GOOD,
TWO LEGS BETTER, TWO LEGS BEST. NEVER LET THEM REST, TIL THOSE LEGS ARE
BETTER AND THOSE LEGS ARE BEST !!!!


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