From: UticaRose-AT-aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:11:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: M-I: Zubatov and the lists In a message dated 97-03-17 18:07:56 EST, rosserjb-AT-jmu.edu (Rosser Jr, John Barkley) writes: << Hot stuff, I found out who Zubatov was. as if you didnt know, you marxite-zubatovist hyper-agent hound ! << He was the tsarist police chief (and a cossack) who ordered the firing on the protesters in "Bloody Sunday" in St. Petersburg in Russia in 1905. there you have it, you leninite-rosserist boot-licking lackey. as if there wasnt a real Bloody Sunday, you put it in "quotes." you silently betray your class origins, your native instincts and your true calling !! <<So, take that! all you unconscious Zubatovists! clearly a plague on this list. << no, you marxite-leninite-minimalist !!! misleading the workers yet again. the plague be on you for acting as if any zubatovist could act unconsciously. it is well known that it is imposible for a zubatovist to act without being deeply conscious of their evil-ness. you are obviously no more than a second-rate lovestone-ite or hand-me-down browderite swindler !!!! no more than a counterfeit fosterite, no more than a fake hallist !!!!! just more of your false prevaracating. << Speaking of this list, I think that this is where the action is going to be. Proposals for people to run off to various other closed lists of one sort or another are just fine and dandy, but most of them will end up like left-unity, marxism-thaxis, and various other boring "low volume" lists where there is no real confrontation of ideas, or which are completely dead. there you go you pseudo-bukharinite wrecker, you proto-zinovievite strike breaker. more talk of death. the so-called closed lists are alive, reviving, surviving, arriving and thoroughly anti-depriving. this is well known to any class conscious nine year old. your attempts to speak as if this were not the truth are pathetic, self-discrediting and leave you naked before all class conscious workers as the GENUINE zubatovist you merely aspire to be. << Let us hope that the discussion on this list can remain at least somewhat above the flame level at least some of the time. But, an open list with serious discussion is going to have serious disagreements. >> LONG LIVE THE LIVERS ! LONG LIVE THE LONG LIVERS !! DEATH TO THE DEAD !!! TWILIGHT FOR THE REST !!!! FOR A CLOSED LIST ! FOR A REALLY SMALL CLOSED LIST !! FOR A REALLY SMALL, CHEERLESS CLOSED LIST !!! FOR A REALLY SMALL, CHEERLESS CLOSED LIST DEDICATED TO OUR FAVORITE LIVING YET DEAD MAXIMUM LEADERS !!!! FOR STALIN-MAO-DUNG THOUGHT. ALIVE, YET DEAD. SMALL, YET CHEERLESS. CLOSED, YET MAXIMUM. FOR ALL THAT IS GOOD AND FOR NOTHING THAT IS BAD.TWO LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BETTER, TWO LEGS BEST. NEVER LET THEM REST, TIL THOSE LEGS ARE BETTER AND THOSE LEGS ARE BEST !!!! --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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