From: "Rosser Jr, John Barkley" <rosserjb-AT-jmu.edu> Subject: M-I: Rahul on game theory Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:31:51 -0500 () Uh, Rahul, what's with all this moaning about academics? Is this really necessary or useful? I have few disagreements with your remarks which I think have been mostly on the mark. I originally posted on game theory because Kevin Cabral asked me to (blame him). Furthermore, given the ugly flame war this list has just been through, it struck me that even if it is an arid academic topic, a discussion of the relevance or lack thereof of game theory might help pull the list back up to a higher intellectual plane, if not necessarily one that it should stay at forever. Sorry (don't get on my case, malecki!) if this is somehow offensive. Just to very briefly respond to your latest specific remarks, I did not say that the Nash equilibrium "is stable" or describe how it is so. I said that it has some stability characteristics, which was a deliberately vague remark, since as you accurately point out it depends on specifics of the game in question. I was trying to downplay the significance of the Nash equilibrium which you seemed to want to build up. Thus I mentioned that it is simply one among quite a few other equilibrium concepts. I am well aware of and fully agree with the criticisms you mentioned of CGE and PO, along with several others you didn't mention that I doubt are of interest to this list. I mentioned subgame perfect equilibrium, not because I think it is something that is wonderful or that we should get all worked up about, but again simply to note that Nash equilibrium is not the end all and be all. Subgame perfect equilibrium involves optimization over a repeated game. There happen to be subgame perfect equilibria for the prisoner's dilemma that give the cooperative solution. In my original posts on this topic, I said that I thought that the PD was the most useful and practical aspect of game theory for socialist issues. I also think that it can be put in relatively common sense/easy to understand terms, which is a virtue of it. I don't think you disagree with that. After your longish posts you said that you were going to tell us what you thought was useful to get out of game theory, even if you think it is mostly a waste of time, intellectual crock, etc. I am curious to see/hear what it is that you think is useful. By then we can probably drop this topic and stand aside for the developing seminar. Barkley Rosser -- Rosser Jr, John Barkley rosserjb-AT-jmu.edu --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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