File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/97-03-28.125, message 83


Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 03:02:23 -0500
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: M-I: A warning to M-I and Jefferson Village..


Unfortunately I have used all of my posts up for M-I for this day.  However 
I just have to comment and a WARNING on godena and is anguisly twisting and 
turning over Aldolfo and the latest developments on the list. And I 
apoligize for breaking this rule..

For months now godena has been trying to clean up Stalinism and its 
political line only to have aldolfo go off the deep end and accuse not only 
all of the women on M-I of being "Trotskyists", imperialist agents, in the 
service of Fujimora among other things. But goes now even futher with 
characterizations of "fascist" and once again is threatening people with 
violence and of getting the goods on Zeynep from Turkey.

Poor Godena! Still trying to cool things down, defending Aldolfo and 
apologizing for his despicable slanders. Now it appears that Aldolfo has 
even gone to far for Godena who as "moderater" of M-I warns the list that 
posting Aldolfo's philth can and will mean expulsion from M-I.

I suggest that Godena start with expelling himself for two weeks for being 
the person who constantly has been feeding M-I with just Aldolfo's ravings 
under the cover of saying that he (Godena) agrees with Aldolfo on questions 
like "affirmative action". 

I note that Godena is much smarter then Aldolfo. He realizes that Aldolfo is 
committing political Hari kari. But still can not let his potential block 
partner go. Suggesting to everybody that Aldolfo is really this great guy 
who writes just brilliant things. And this poor Aldolfo could and would be a 
great asset to M-I!

Well, I doubt that Aldofo's politics are any asset to anybody and especially 
poor and working class people irregardless of gender. But his layest ravings 
have put him outside of the bounds of any serious political discussion on 
any list except perhaps his own creation the new "Lenin" list..

So sorry Godena--all your hand wringing and twisting and turning is in fact 
the point that your are soft on Aldolfo. And you are trying to recouncile  
people into accepting Stalinist slander and fascist baiting and at the same 
time an offense punishable by immediate expulsion. Except of course when you 
send this philth to the list because of some important point that your 
mentor Aldolfo has made.

The point is that Aldofo is smearing just about everybody on M-I and 
especially Zeynep for being a "fascist" among other things and should be 
dealt with according to some violent method that aldolfo dreams up for his 
political opponents. He even of late has pointed out that he is contacting 
people in Turkey to get the goods on Zeynep. Do you really know what this 
could mean for Zeynep if Aldolfo does something like this?

Don't you think that you are pulling the wool over the eyes of people? I 
suggest that Godena go and Yoshi become a "moderater" for M-I. Godena has 
proven that he sympathizes with a person who has been calling everybody on 
the list fascists, violence and threats of violence and now is claiming that 
he is trying to get the goods on Zeynep who lives in a country which means 
that Aldolfo's "getting the goods" could mean IMPRISONMENT AND DEATH.

M-I must now draw a line between Aldolfo and his "moderater supporter". I 
formally request that Godena be removed for a period of time from his 
moderater role. And take immediate action to get this real madmen Aldolfo 
>from posting to any of the lists at Jefferson Village.

Because we are not JUST talking about words or questions like "affirmative 
action" or "feminism"  here longer but *real* actions on the part of Aldolfo. 

His crimes is quite openly published by himself and his pal Godena. The most 
serious at this moment is "getting the goods on Zeynep" which could give 
quite horrible circumstances for any militant from a repressive third world 
country.

 All who claim to be "Marxists" just can not accept this kind of activity.. 
Godena should be suspended as moderater and Aldolfo goes from all lists at 
Jefferson village..

Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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