From: UticaRose-AT-aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 23:22:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: M-I: Concerning Zeynep and marxism-international In a message dated 97-03-28 01:26:40 EST, aaustin-AT-utkux.utcc.utk.edu (Andrew Wayne Austin) writes: << Maybe I am missing something. I find Adolfo's arguments way out in the ozone somewhere. He has always been abusive. I see nothing new in his latest tirade. He desires to have an exclusive little club of devotees about which he can fashion an unique "Marxist" view of the world. His "vision" is not one that working people would ever willingly accept. I regard his beliefs (delusions?) as tyrannical. I believe some people on this list are snowed just a bit by deft use of a thesaurus and over- the-top revolutionary rhetoric. So I suppose I am asking, what is it that I am missing? >> what you are missing is an age-old habit on the left of toleration towards thugs and bullies. so long as they proclaim themselves as marxists, whatever they say is excused, minimized, qualified or just ignored. once they announce their allegiance to the working classes, bullies are treated as if they are comrades when they would return that by setting up camps and rounding up all of their class enemies as soon as they had the first chance. remember, Lenin in his testament shrunk from dealing with the Bolshevik bullies and thugs. all of stalin's opponents imagined him as a principled communist until they found themselves in the center of a show trial, a camp or a ditch out in the woods. and even then, there were apparently leftists who preferred to surrender their own lives and families rather than be disloyal to that monster. i believe that a handy litmus test of reason in political discourse is whether one will defend stalin or mao. how can anyone justify the butchery ? if they can, watch out. apparently its just OK to brand zeynep as everything short of a fascist bootlicking lackey. curious double standard on the left. such behaviour would not be tolerated for a minute in anyone else on any other point in the political spectrum. --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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