Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:31:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Wayne Austin <aaustin-AT-utkux.utcc.utk.edu> Subject: Re: M-I: state capitalism (fwd) Lew, You continue to ignore the wealth of quotes I have supplied from Marx and Engels' writings. This is a common tactic you use. You used this selective blindness tactic before in the discussion over whether bourgeois relations persisted into socialist society. In fact, both matters we have discussed then and now are to be found in the same places in the text. As I stated before, this does not involve interpretation, just reading the text. I also note Lenin's argument in *The State and Revolution* as being representative of Marx and Engels' argument regarding the two phase transition to socialism. While it is true that Lenin elevates the concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat to a level not represented in Marx and Engels's text (he makes it the central organizing principle--although it is there in Marx and Engels' work, and given Lenin's political task of actually carrying out a revolution reordering of emphasis is justifiable), his understanding of their arguments was far superior than the economistic hand-sitting of Plekhanov and the Mensheviks (where, by the way, the state capitalist argument ultimately originates). I really don't know what I can do about this, Lew, this selective blindness of yours. But your purposeful ignorance of the facts certainly doesn't make me dishonest. So I will leave you to your convenient rationalizations on the matter. Worker movements were organized and coordinated by a lot of different organizations. I was identifying the lightening rod of the movement at that time. I think if you take a look at the Communist International during this time, read the Proceedings of the Second Congress, take an accounting of who all was there and the hegemony of the Communist Party worldwide you will see that, in fact, the Comintern was the powerful organizing entity. During the Second (or Socialist) International prior to 1914, the First Congress had very little influence over the member parties. During the Second Congress (1920), however, the Communist International, the member parties worked together to coordinate a program for world communist revolution. The Comintern was founded in 1919, just prior to the Second Congress at a time when the world was in turmoil. From out of this turmoil, the Comintern coordinated worldwide revolutionary communist activities. I don't see how anybody who has looked at this period might accuse another of overestimating the influence of the Bolsheviks at this time (but, as I already mentioned, there was considerable socialist activity that took place outside the scope of the Comintern.) Andrew Austin --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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