File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/marxism-international.9706, message 248


Date: 15 Jun 97 03:07:03 EDT
From: neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: M-I: state capitalism


dear friends,

Reply to Louis Proyect,

Louis P. what have you been smoking lately?

Russian state capitalist  imperialist expansion existed from the late
 30s onward.
First with its typical imperialist E. European  spheres of
influence deal and  alliance ( yes ,temporary- as most imperialists
eventually have a "falling out") with the Nazis  in 1939,
The Russians got Bessarabia from Rumania , their irredentist
claims  on E. Poland  and got to occupy all 3 Balts  in 1940 thru
military force on these weaker capitalist states.

After they allied with the USA , British, and other imperialisms to
defeat Nazi imperialist  war machine , they were finally  allowed at the 
W. Imperialist conference table  given big power status  to divvy up the  
NEW post- WW2 spheres of influence.
This was duly accomplished with  the Stalinos meeting with Churchill
and British imperialism in Moscow in Oct '44 and with the Americans
at Yalta in Feb. '45.
Enough evidence, even from stalino diplomats and Allies, including
then alied Tito people (Djilas, Kidric  etc.)  that  S. Europe and Balkans were 
divided by percents in countries based on party support/army force in government

in '44-45.
Stalin and Churchill arranged the divvy-up with no concern for the
proletariat vs. new capital /overlords and  Stalin even agreed that
"leftist workers and partisans taking siezing  property ' in France-Italy
 should surrender arms and supplies to  Franco-british-american armies 
or be put down by force..
The following are the  russo/british  imperialist  split of loot/spheres  which
the
american imperialism later as the 'cold war" ensued  by late '46, early '47
found  too 
'generous' toward Russia .
Greece --British 90-10%
Yugoslavia--50-50
Bulgaria--Russia 75-25%
Rumania --Russia  75-25

Of course there was  the settlement over W. Europe that was
not  completely settled on paper until 1955.

Russia would later  intervene to prop -up its state cap allies  by
armed force, like E. Germany against workers strikes in 1953,
 crushing worker soviets in Hungary in 1956 in Hungary  and even 
smashing milquetoast  party  reformists  1968 in Czechoslovakia not just to keep
 western imperialism at bay --but to maintain its 
main markets, invested joint stock companies , and advantageous
trade with pliant E. Euopean govts.

Its "aid" to Cuba  had many strings attached , as  Che Guevara warned
about as he secretly then publicly denounced Russia as fake marxists
in 1965 and pointed out they , like the USA, etc 'exploited third world
countries"
For that he was forced out of his formal Cuban government posts by
USSR protests--threats of economic  reprisals...
If Russia was not an imperialist, she would have helped Cuba industrialize 
her economy which she did not, Cuba was "kept" as a mainly one or two
(sugar-tobacco) crop  producer  with only  a few light industries, under
capitalized 
and hence  in new dependent status to the USSR,
Today many a Cuban state cap government official and retired officials admit
that
 ex-USSR, Bulgaria, E. Germany were not socialist after all but  a form  of
state
 capitalism. 

Neil











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