Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 10:14:30 +1000 (EST)
From: Gary MacLennan <g.maclennan-AT-qut.edu.au>
Subject: Reply to the Saxon was re: M-I: Scientific socialism,


At 06:09 PM 5/30/97 +0200, you wrote:
>Unwittingly kicking off the silly season, Gary wrote:
>
>>You wouldn't recognise scientific socialism if it bit you on the arse.
>
>I get this image of Louis P (Gary's idea of scientific socialism, not mine)
>sinking his teeth into UticaRose's behind.
>
>But I suppose it was just Gary's wishful thinking at work -- tell us Gary,
>when and where did scientific socialism ever bite *you*?
>
>Anyway, leaving bodily parts and conversion to old-time Stalinism aside,
>it's a bonus every time someone with a voice of their own hits the list.
>That's just about everybody from Oz, for some reason. Maybe it's just that
>they're not tying themselves in knots trying to second-guess some imaginary
>consensus.
>
>So keep up the good work, Gary and the rest of you.
>
>On the subject of arses, I wonder if our Ozzie mate would translate ars
>poetica as poetic arse?
>
>Speaking of which, the style isn't really the person, but it spreads a bit
>of honey on the rim of the goblet, so the bitter medicine stands a better
>chance of slipping down.
>
>As I tell my kids when I'm in the mood: There are two rules to writing --
>
>1.	Know what you want to say.
>
>2.	Say it.



Rodwell , as a member of the master race that has plagued my homeland for
over 600 years you know that I speak with an Irish accent.  You also know
that I know that you speak with an English accent.

What do you and I have in common,  Rodwell? Well we are both exiles and we
both retain our essential identity. The Fourth International gloss that you
wear so proudly on this list does not fool me for a moment.  An arrogant
Saxon you were born and still are.

I will gladly admit also to being at heart Irish.  I will also admit that
my path to Marxism was probably easier than yours because I did not have
the years of imperialistic superiority to slough off.  You I am afraid
would always have struggled to become anything other than
the-ass-hole-who-knows-everything.  Your epiphanic moment when you became
an avatar of the Fourth International has only exacaerbated the problem.


no cheers - just boos and hisses

Gary MacLennan



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