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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:42:41 +1000
From: Rob Schaap <rws-AT-comserver.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: M-I: state capitalism


G'day Andy,

>Same with the fascism, where the state takes a large role in
>securing exploitative relations of a capitalist sort--since the capitalist
>mode of production predominates, fascism is a form of capitalism.

Is it tenable to say that, had a significant sector of SU production been
constituted by a relation between private owners of means of production and
wage workers, then the SU would have been fascist (if all else remained as
it was)?  I guess what I'm wrestling with is, how meaningful is the
difference between Hitler's Germany and Stalin's SU?  This is not a
rhetorical question.  I just want to appreciate what distinctions can be
drawn between the two systems from the point of view that counts, that of
the worker.

>Fascism is an aberration, without
>question emerging from capitalism (indeed, many Marxists argue that
>liberalism, with its emphasis on rationalization, must exist for fascism
>to emerge in the form that that it did, both in fascism's hyperrationalism
>and in its reaction against liberalism and democracy).

I think this was, and is, the Frankfurters' position, eh?  To what degree
was such rationalisation not evident in the SU, do you think?

Gotta go,
Cheers,
Rob.





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