From: cbcox-AT-rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Carrol Cox) Subject: Re: M-I: chaos/Bhaskar/Marxism Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Deb, I usually read your material carefully, but (just as with the issue of "free speech") I don't read material that does not *start out* with making the distinction between action/speech *within* the workers' movement and the movement's attitude towards the bourgeois state. I recent For example, I recently picked up from a public source that the editor of the nation attended a social function at which Henry Kissinger was also present. She did not throw blood on him or spit in his face. That is intolerable. (On the other hand, when there *is* occasion for civility between revolutionaries and bourgeoisie or bourgeois agents, it is more apt to be the latter who are apt to fail in it. At the Geneva conference ending the First Indo-Chinese War, Chou and Dulles arrived early at the conference room one morning, and it was Dulles not Chou who ostentatiously refused to shake hands or acknowledge the presence of the other.) But one *would not* appeal to or even try to pressure the FBI to suppress mad-dog kissinger's free speech or spit in his eye, but I have a number of times in the past engaged in direct actions attempting to suppress the speech of imperialist/bourgeois spokespersons. As pointed out in the posting forewarded by Zeynep, this is a no-brainer. It is necessary for the existence of such lists as this to pretend that all listmembers, except those who explicitly state otherwise, are comrades. When such a pretense is impossible, as with Malecki or Bhoddi, one ignores them. Hence this list or postings to it do *not* raise the question of civility in respect to the bourgeosie, but the issue in respect to civility among comrades. I gather from Doug's response that you did not make this elementary distinction; hence I have already deleted your posting under this heading, but am awaiting a revised posting which honors this distinction. Carrol --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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