File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/marxism-international.9709, message 173


Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:25:53 -0400
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: M-I: HWE LET'S HAVE A VOTE


Proyect writes;

>Heartfield:

>One of the advantages of a mailing-list is that you don't get the sort of
>social pressure that you find in preconvention discussion of "vanguard"
>parties. One of the reasons people find it so difficult to stake out a
>dissident viewpoint in Marxist-Leninist groups is that there is peer
>pressure to go along with the majority.

Dear Jim and list,

Notice that Proyect has gone from "James" to "Heartfield" and continues with 
his ideas of "social pressure" on the list. This coming from a hypocrite who 
less then 24 hours ago was attemping the most vulgar sort of unpolitical 
social pressure and castration of list members with his liberal partner in 
crime Doug chiming in as usual..

He goes on to specially point out "Rodwell and Malecki" has those horrible 
Bolsheviks who consistently defended the principle of Democratic Centralism 
on the party question..And yes we both have done that!

Naturally this only applies in a revolutionary organization and has has 
nothing to do with social pressure on this list but is a revolutionary guide 
to action for the party..

and then tries to paint his ideas of democratic centralism in real life and 
onto this list. In reality he wants a list to look like his ideas of what a 
party should look like.
No sharp differences and covering up and encompassing positions which could 
very well put people on the opposite side of the barricades.

He knows very well that both Hugh and I have argued that this list and the 
Internet discussion lists in general are a media controlled by the 
bougeoisie and is in fact bougeois or petty bougeois in content. Communist 
revolutionaries use this media as a quick and effective way to exchange 
ideas and fight if neccessary for political clarity and to help educate the 
many coming on to the net who we never in our dreams could have reached 
before...

This list is not a party but a gathering of self proclaimed "leftists" from 
different backgrounds and different traditions and naturally should be a 
forum for all who want to contribute to the debates that come up or are 
introduced to the list..(Except the fascists)

In reality it is Proyect who time and again has used all kinds of 
organizational manuvers connected to both outright slander and of late the 
most vulgar sort of social castration to keep this a list for a few petty 
bougeois intellectuals, mostly american, connected to viscous baiting of his 
political opponents.

And yes I agree with the sentence;

"Most ordinary Germans were not Hitler's willing executioners"'

By agreeing or disagreeing to the above is no fucking crime. Nor has it 
anything to do with the Leninist view of democratic centralism. It is 
Proyect that is using the most vulgar sort of "Leninist" anti-communist 
scare tactics to intimidate people here.

Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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