Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 22:52:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Wayne Austin <aaustin-AT-utkux.utcc.utk.edu> Subject: Re: M-I: Re: Zionism's Willing Executioners Comrades, Neil, Goldhagen doesn't advance a biological deterministic view of Germans. That's an absurd claim. And Godena is bound and determined to demonstrate fully his character on this list. I am reminded of Tony Hopkin's excellent portrayal of the 37th US president in Oliver Stone's Nixon. A scene (and I am not sure whether this was one of the cut scenes, as I have the movie on tape and it includes many of the scenes that were removed, one in particular depicting a conversation between CIA Director Helms and President Nixon that is incredible) has Nixon on a rant about all those "Harvard Hebrew Boys," with their "Harvard credentials," something to that effect, etc.. What is most interesting about the rant, outside of demonstrating Nixon's anti-Semitism, was Nixon's envy of those he perceived to be more educated then he and how that jealousy ate him up inside. He looked so petty as he would tear his imaginary enemies apart with his attacks on their ethnicity, their educational backgrounds, etc., whenever things weren't going his way. The charge of "elitism" leveled at non-elites simply because they are educated is reactionary. I have called it elsewhere "brownshirt anti-intellectualism" because that's what it really is. I suppose my first reaction to this and the rest of Godena's bullshit is sarcasm. Something to the effect of: Yes, the universities are full of Jews who have connections with the US government. What is this called? ZOG, the Zionist Occupied Government? (Btw, does Samuel P. Huntington fit in here? He's a Harvard boy.) This is your garden variety sort of conspiracy crap. All Jews are involved in the conspiracy to uphold the US client state in Palestine. I am really getting disgusted at this point. Of course, Godena in his haste to tear people down has completely forgotten that I do not share the position that he tries to attribute to me. As I wrote in a lengthy post to this list on the matter, my position vis-a-vis Israel is close to Godena's on factual matters, and I have commented on these matters publically elsewhere. And while the aid to Israel and the purposes of the relations between the US and Israel are to be damned, Godena blows this arrangement between nation-states up into a Jewish conspiracy. As for me, Godena sees that I would defend Goldhagen's analysis on social scientific grounds, but his irrationalizations make this alone enough to swallow me whole into ZOG. I am now one of the International Jewry--the guy from Middle Tennessee State University. Is there some sort of reward in this? (Actually, I haven't been at MTSU for over a year, but so what.) I have watched this character Godena now for a while, folks. Like I said, a lot of pretty words. But there is no substance here. There is no logic. There is no principle. When you unravel Godena what you end up with is canned air. I am happy he has finally started arguing on this list instead of spinning dreamy essays. Andy Austin --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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