Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 13:03:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Louis N Proyect <lnp3-AT-columbia.edu> Subject: Re: M-I: Not committed to Goldhagen? On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Andrew Wayne Austin wrote: > As for the rest of your argument, I am very busy and I am weary of all > this dumping on me. Because, and I think anybody with a clear head (i.e., > doesn't have this idiotic agenda that blinds them to reason) can see this, > that is what this whole stupid discussion has turned into. > > I regret that you, Louis Proyect, have seen fit to join the irrational > camp. You have. Good luck. > Maybe you should go away for a couple of months until you learn a little modesty and respect for the opinion of others. I don't blame you for being weary of all the dumping. I would also feel this way if I made support for Goldhagen's research a litmus test for serious Marxist thought and put up with people's outrage. Goldhagen is a joke. Your embrace of him is a scandal. You have continued to ignore my substantive criticisms of his work. I have read only five pages of his book and that is *all I need* to form an opinion. Anybody who wrote what he wrote about Germany in the 20s is not a historian, he is a lying propagandaist whose cause you have embraced. You remain silent about his lies. This will not do on a rigorous and scholarly list. Do you agree with his falsification of German history in the 1920s? When you read the section on Weimar Germany, didn't a little alarm go off in your swollen head about the tendentiousness of the argument? I have hammered away at this point, but you still don't seem to get it. What is your problem with history? I know that you are trying to carve out a career as an academic political scientist and you concentrate on this rather specialised world, but how do you manage to mess up royally on such questions as the sequence of historical events in the Spanish Civil War, or whether somebody is telling lies about the Weimar Republic? What you need to do is rest those arrogant typing fingers of yours and bone up on history a little bit before shooting off your ignorant mouth about what happened under fascist rule. One of your problems is that like many aspiring academics, you are awash in abstractions. You write about genocide in the abstract, fascism in the abstract and racism in the abstract. This is not the way Marxists should approach politics. If you study Marx and Engel's writings from the 1850s and 1860s, you will discover article after article that is immersed in historical detail. What much of your writing represents is overinflated prose around other people's research. Furthermore, your writing smacks of a dissertation. Some people have asked me in private whether you are recycling term papers here. I replied that, like most pedants, you are incapable of expressing yourself in any other fashion. In the past several weeks, you have alienated just about everybody. This consists of a wide variety of political opinions. In your latest screed, you adopted a cheapened and profane tone. This is usually the mark of somebody who is in over his head, like Malecki 100 percent of the time. Pretty soon, you will be viewed as another Malecki and the target for people's Eudora filters. This would be a shame, because you are much better than that. (For information about how to filter out Malecki, please contact me privately for technical advice.) Louis Proyect --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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