Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 11:58:50 -0400 From: james m blaut <70671.2032-AT-CompuServe.COM> Subject: M-I: Marxism vs. Maoism & nationalist 'socialism" Neil: 1. Your fundamental mistake is to believe that there is just one form of national independence movement and it is the 19th century form in which European bourgeois communities formed their own bourgeois states in a process of classic "bourgeois-nationalism" that was part of the rise of capitalism. Essentially all Marxists believed, before about 1915, that this was the essential nature of all national movmenets. In 1915-1916 Lenin showed that national movements in colonies, like Ireland, are *not* simply part of the rise of capitalism -- they are struggles against capitalism, partly bourgeois but nonetheless progressive and revolutionary -- a fundamentally different form of national movement. 2. Lenin desmolished the anti-natiional-liberation views of Bukharin and Pyatakov in articles attacking their "imperialist economism." In 1918-19 Lenin did *not* lose the debate in the Bolshevik party congress: he won it. And in the 2nd Congress of the CI the issue was not whether or not to fight against colonialism everywhere -- a unanimous opinion -- but how much compromise should be allowed with bourgeois-nationalist elements in colonies. 3. Since then, the overwhelming majority of Marxists, of all schools, have supported national liberation struggles against colonialism and neocolonialism. !Viva Puerto Rico libre y socialista! Jim Blaut --- from list marxism-international-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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