File spoon-archives/marxism-international.archive/marxism-international_1997/marxism-international.9710, message 19

Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:02:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: M-I: proletarians (from Jim B)

Jim, this stuff is impossible to follow. You should pick out a sentence or
two of Heartfield's ravings and then just write your reply underneath it. 
This weaving back and forth with "you said" and "I reply" made me sea-sick
and I just threw up outside my thirteenth story window. Luckily I hit an
investment banker. 

Louis Proyect

> I said: >If you're talking about the historical
> >development of capitalism, you're asserting  that the "exterior was
> >accidental and contingent" -- meaning I suppose that non-Europe,
> >historically, was "exterior" to real capitalism.
> >You replied:  Yes. That's what I mean, at least in its origins. Am I
> wrong?
> I reitrerate: how can something be external or internal to something that
> does not yet exist?  You seem to have Europe straining to give birth to 
> capitalism.

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